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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Brent,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for your reply.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010></SPAN><SPAN
class=944000614-20052010></SPAN><SPAN class=944000614-20052010></SPAN><SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Another workaround:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Change the sequence of the axes definition in
the srtext of the table spatial_ref_sys in postgis with
originally first AXIS Y then AXIS X to first AXIS X then AXIS Y the xy
values are not swapped.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>(update spatial_ref_sys<BR>set srtext = 'PROJCS["MGI /
Austria GK
West",GEOGCS["MGI",DATUM["Militar_Geographische_Institute",SPHEROID["Bessel
1841",6377397.155,299.1528128,AUTHORITY["EPSG","7004"]],TOWGS84[577.326,90.129,463.919,5.137,1.474,5.297,2.4232],AUTHORITY["EPSG","6312"]],PRIMEM["Greenwich",0,AUTHORITY["EPSG","8901"]],UNIT["degree",0.0174532925199433,AUTHORITY["EPSG","9108"]],AUTHORITY["EPSG","4312"]],UNIT["metre",1,AUTHORITY["EPSG","9001"]],PROJECTION["Transverse_Mercator"],PARAMETER["latitude_of_origin",0],PARAMETER["central_meridian",10.33333333333333],PARAMETER["scale_factor",1],PARAMETER["false_easting",0],PARAMETER["false_northing",-5000000],AUTHORITY["EPSG","31254"],AXIS["X",NORTH],AXIS["Y",EAST]]'<BR>where
srid = 31254;).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=944000614-20052010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Karl</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <B>Im Auftrag von </B>Brent
Robinson<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 19. Mai 2010 22:42<BR><B>An:</B> FDO
Users Mail List<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: [fdo-users] AutoCAD Map 3d 2011 FDO 3.5.0
BulkCopy Point fromShpFile to PostGIS 1.5.5 Table Coordinate Transformation
Problem<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
Karl,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
xy swapping might be due to different axes assignments in the source and
destination coordinate systems. For srid 31254, the PostGIS spatial_ref_sys
table has the following in the WKT:
AXIS["Y",EAST],AXIS["X",NORTH]].<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Could
you check your .prj file? If the WKT sets Y to North, or does not set it
explicitly then that would explain the swapping, which would occur when Bulk
copy converts the geometries between the source and destination
WKT’s.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">For
SRID=26986, the WKT from PostGIS sets X to East and Y to North which explains
why Bulk Copy worked fine for it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I’m
not a coordinate system expert so I have to talk to a few other people to
determine a long-term solution. In the meantime, the workaround you mentioned in
another e-mail would be a good one. Overriding the source coordinate system to
an incompatible one and then ignoring coordinate system errors, causes the
coordinate conversion to be bypassed, preventing the undesired ordinate
swap.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Brent.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Brent Robinson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:21
AM<BR><B>To:</B> FDO Users Mail List<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [fdo-users] AutoCAD
Map 3d 2011 FDO 3.5.0 BulkCopy Point from ShpFile to PostGIS 1.5.5 Table
Coordinate Transformation Problem<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
Karl,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
get the same results with this coordinate system when bulk copying to the
PostgreSQL provider. The x and y values get switched. I’ll do a bit more
investigation to narrow down the cause.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Brent.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:fdo-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Hermann Karl<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:54
AM<BR><B>To:</B> FDO Users Mail List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [fdo-users] AutoCAD Map
3d 2011 FDO 3.5.0 BulkCopy Point from ShpFile to PostGIS 1.5.5 Table Coordinate
Transformation Problem<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=DE-AT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Dear
List,</SPAN><SPAN lang=DE-AT> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN lang=DE-AT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">If I try to BulkCopy
a point from a FDO_Connected shapefile to which i have allocated the
coordinatesystem "MGI-AT.AUT-West / GK" (MGI / Austria GK West Zone) (srid
= 31254) in AutoCAD Map 3d to a FDO_Connected point table in postgis (srid of
the_geom = 31254) to which i have allocated the coordinatesystem
"MGI-AT.AUT-West / GK" in AutoCAD Map 3d too, then the resulting x value of the
point in the postgis table equals the y value of the original point in the
shapefile and the resulting y value of the point in the postgis table equals the
x value of the original point in the shapefile.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN lang=DE-AT
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Karl</SPAN><SPAN
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