<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Abdoul,<br><br>No worries. I think we've all fell into the busy spell. Some forestry legislation was recently changed here that's thrown us all into a bit of extra work. <br><br></div>In either case, as soon as some of you get a chance to digest some of those suggestions and improve my work, I think we can begin moving a little more forward on divvying up the various necessary elements.<br>
<br></div>Cheers!<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><br>-<font>-<br>All the best,<br>Lee<br>ISA Certified Arborist MI-4148A<br>Registered Forester #46043</font><br></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Abdoul O. Dia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dia.abdoul@gmail.com" target="_blank">dia.abdoul@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    <div>Hi Lee,<br>
      <br>
      Sorry for the responding delay. I've been so overloaded these last
      weeks. I'm back now and I'll have some time to work on our
      project. I'll rework your design picture so I'll put it on the git
      hub as well suggest an interface design that we can share.<br>
      <br>
      All the best<br>
      <br>
      Abdoul<br>
      <br>
      Le 2013-06-20 12:05, Lee a écrit :<br>
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        <div>Thanks Abdoul,<br>
          <br>
          I'm in agreement. I think it's a good idea to nail down this
          design/framework before going too far. I'm not sure what the
          best way to collaborate on that is, other than for you guys to
          propose your own "pictures" based on my start. <br>
          <br>
          For the most part, I created the attached image to initiate
          discussion. When it comes to software design and build, I make
          a much better soldier than a general. So, chiefly, I look to
          those of you who are most experienced to set the right
          direction of this project.<br>
          <br>
          On a last note, I do think it is important during this process
          that we "think small." I ascribe to the belief that we should
          "release early and often." For the initial programming, we
          should look to have the smallest workable components.
          Hopefully then we can generate interest, and build community
          working towards a more robust product.<br>
          <br>
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        How are others feeling? Thoughts? How can we refine my proposed
        framework?<br>
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          -<font>-<br>
            All the best,<br>
            Lee<br>
            ISA Certified Arborist MI-4148A<br>
            Registered Forester #46043</font><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Abdoul
          O. Dia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dia.abdoul@gmail.com" target="_blank">dia.abdoul@gmail.com</a>></span>
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              <div>Hi Lee,<br>
                <br>
                The attachment works well for me. For your previous
                questions, I still believe that we should spend a bit of
                time on the design to make sure that we are heading into
                the right direction and avoid leaving important things a
                side. We could improve the framework that you've
                suggested. What do you think guys?<br>
                <br>
                Abdoul<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Le 2013-06-16 13:00, Lee a écrit :<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Let's see if this works. I'm not sure
                      the mailing list likes attachment.
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                      <div>Please confirm if this is working or not. If
                        it isn't, I can host the pdf/image somewhere
                        else.</div>
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                        -<font>-<br>
                          All the best,<br>
                          Lee<br>
                          ISA Certified Arborist MI-4148A<br>
                          Registered Forester #46043</font><br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at
                        12:02 PM, Jake Maier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:j.m@jmforestry.com" target="_blank">j.m@jmforestry.com</a>></span>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Lee,

                                  I think I didn’t get the attachment. </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Again

                                  thank you for facilitating.</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jake</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                    <a href="mailto:forestrytools-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">forestrytools-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>
                                    [mailto:<a href="mailto:forestrytools-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">forestrytools-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lee<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 14, 2013
                                    10:44 AM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> ForestryTools List<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [ForestryTools]
                                    Forestry-Toolkit Structure</span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                  <p>Did anyone have a chance to view
                                    the attachment? Any thoughts? I'm in
                                    no way a software engineer.</p>
                                  <p>Thanks guys, have yourself a great
                                    weekend!</p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 6, 2013
                                      6:04 PM, "Lee" <<a href="mailto:muellerl@gmail.com" target="_blank">muellerl@gmail.com</a>>

                                      wrote:</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">whoops. Wrong
                                        version of the map.</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                          --<br>
                                          All the best,<br>
                                          Lee<br>
                                          ISA Certified Arborist
                                          MI-4148A<br>
                                          Registered Forester #46043</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun
                                          6, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Lee <<a href="mailto:muellerl@gmail.com" target="_blank">muellerl@gmail.com</a>>

                                          wrote:</p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I'm not
                                            sure the list will accept
                                            attachments, but let's give
                                            this a go.</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                                              I've put together a simple
                                              "project map" on how I see
                                              the toolkit's workflow, at
                                              least in my head. I'm
                                              looking for feedback and
                                              consensus moving forward.
                                            </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">I tried
                                              to use colors within the
                                              idea map to describe
                                              another level of thinking.
                                              I'm not sure how much it
                                              worked, but here's the
                                              descriptor.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Yellow - User input /
                                              handled externally.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Blue -
                                              Internal to Forestry
                                              Toolkit</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Green
                                              - Output<br>
                                              No color - Handled
                                              completely outside
                                              QGIS/Forestry-Toolkit</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Essentially,

                                              the blue boxes are the
                                              operations/utilities we
                                              need to build within
                                              Forestry-toolkit. I've
                                              tried to use brackets to
                                              describe where some of
                                              these codes or operations
                                              might already partially
                                              exist.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">For

                                              example, in reality, we
                                              could just force the user
                                              to do their plot
                                              generation within F-tools.
                                              That said, I find F-tools
                                              largely inadequate for
                                              generating the appropriate
                                              plots. It's just not
                                              simple or straight-forward
                                              enough to use for most
                                              forestry aspects. Which is
                                              fine, since it wasn't made
                                              for that purpose. So we
                                              could probably use the 
                                              F-tools code, refine it,
                                              and put it in
                                              Forestry-Toolkit for plot
                                              generation.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">So, to
                                              dissect what's happening:</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">1. The
                                              user takes a forest parcel
                                              and uses Forestry-Toolkit
                                              to generate inventory
                                              plots.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">2. The
                                              user goes and collects the
                                              information in the field.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">3. The
                                              user enters the data into
                                              an excel spreadsheet or
                                              other format which will
                                              output a CSV.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">4.
                                              Forestry toolkit will
                                              connect Plot ID between
                                              the plot shapefile and
                                              inventory CSV. The data
                                              will inherit a stand ID
                                              from the stand shapefile
                                              (spatial join). </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">6.
                                              Forestry Toolkit will run
                                              inventory data for each
                                              stand.</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Is
                                              this making sense? Is this
                                              what we want to do? Is
                                              there something we should
                                              adjust? For you software
                                              guys, is this the best way
                                              of doing it?</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Basically,

                                              do we want to move forward
                                              with this "design" and
                                              better assign some tasks?</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Let's
                                              come to a consensus. I'm
                                              trying to facilitate, not
                                              lead.<br clear="all">
                                            </p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                                  --<br>
                                                  All the best,<br>
                                                  Lee<br>
                                                  ISA Certified Arborist
                                                  MI-4148A<br>
                                                  Registered Forester
                                                  #46043</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">  </p>
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