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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">+1 exactly my thoughts. I agree to add the sentence that parents are at all times responsible ( well, they are by law, so it is a bit of a redundance).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I just wanted to make clear that I perceive the assistance of a child in distress basic humanity, not special behaviour, too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">adam steer <adam.d.steer@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 10 September 2018 at 10:01 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Martin Tomko <tomkom@unimelb.edu.au><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"foss4g-oceania-discuss@lists.osgeo.org" <foss4g-oceania-discuss@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania-discuss] FOSS4G-Oceania-Discuss Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The concern of feeling ‘being made responsible’ for another’s child is worth addressing. As I wrote that part of the document, I saw no different from looking after adults in the same situation; but then I am also a parent - and have the
imprimatur of parenthood to fall on (this can be important! some parents will respond differently if they see a parent vs non-parent interacting with their children)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However - I can see that others (especially without kids; or with different views of what parenting is about) may have different ideas. A short clarification is really all that is required; which Cameron has addressed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We realised at no point in the document had we explicitly stated that parents are responsible for their children; and we don’t expect other conference-goers to assume that responsibility. I think this is the whole crux of the concern.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So yes - we want to be the community we want to see! We also want to encourage everyone along on the ride ( historically as we all know, I’m terrible at that! ) - which means we need to find ways to be more clear about some things without
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it’ll be great; and work well - as long as we can get clear and open communication along all the way. And a bit of patience and tolerance from all parties.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 09:40, Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have to say I am puzzled why this is a contentious issue.<br>
"• Assist. If you see a child looking lost or distressed, get down to their level and ask them how you can help. Find a conference volunteer to hand over to."<br>
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I believe this is standard, humane, and compassionate behaviour. I fear a society where an adult would not assist a child in distress. This is verbatim what it says (IFF you see a child LOST or DISTRESSED).
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One that would be expected from anyone anywhere, on the street or at a conference. It does not relieve parents from responsibility, just assures we do not have minors walking around lost ( which can happen).<br>
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Let's think what kind of world we want, and then start by making this true for our conference first.<br>
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On 10/9/18, 5:00 am, "FOSS4G-Oceania-Discuss on behalf of <a href="mailto:foss4g-oceania-discuss-request@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">
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• Assist. If you see a child looking lost or distressed, get down to their level and ask them how you can help. Find a conference volunteer to hand over to.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Adam Steer<br>
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