<div dir="ltr">hey Martin<div><br></div><div>The concern of feeling ‘being made responsible’ for another’s child is worth addressing. As I wrote that part of the document, I saw no different from looking after adults in the same situation; but then I am also a parent - and have the imprimatur of parenthood to fall on (this can be important! some parents will respond differently if they see a parent vs non-parent interacting with their children)</div><div><br></div><div>However - I can see that others (especially without kids; or with different views of what parenting is about) may have different ideas. A short clarification is really all that is required; which Cameron has addressed.</div><div><br></div><div>We realised at no point in the document had we explicitly stated that parents are responsible for their children; and we don’t expect other conference-goers to assume that responsibility. I think this is the whole crux of the concern.</div><div><br></div><div>So yes - we want to be the community we want to see! We also want to encourage everyone along on the ride ( historically as we all know, I’m terrible at that! ) - which means we need to find ways to be more clear about some things without being overly proscriptive.</div><div><br></div><div>I think it’ll be great; and work well - as long as we can get clear and open communication along all the way. And a bit of patience and tolerance from all parties.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 09:40, Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have to say I am puzzled why this is a contentious issue.<br>
"• Assist. If you see a child looking lost or distressed, get down to their level and ask them how you can help. Find a conference volunteer to hand over to."<br>
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I believe this is standard, humane, and compassionate behaviour. I fear a society where an adult would not assist a child in distress. This is verbatim what it says (IFF you see a child LOST or DISTRESSED). <br>
One that would be expected from anyone anywhere, on the street or at a conference. It does not relieve parents from responsibility, just assures we do not have minors walking around lost ( which can happen).<br>
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Let's think what kind of world we want, and then start by making this true for our conference first.<br>
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Martin<br>
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• Assist. If you see a child looking lost or distressed, get down to their level and ask them how you can help. Find a conference volunteer to hand over to.<br>
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