[FOSS4G-Oceania] Motion: extended, targeted call for papers if needed

[adam steer]

Hi all

I see the idea of a second CFP is not supported. I agree that it would have
been a lot better if we’d run it *before* any community vote; and delayed
the community vote accordingly.

I don’t think we’ve done our best, we’ve done a bunch of stuff that fits
within our (predominantly white male) comfort zone and then got out our
excuse book ( ‘5 years ago there were X’; ’some paper which can be ripped
apart easily says women are not interested’; ‘we can’t upset anyone/its
unfair' ).

Having just returned from a conference where the organisers deliberately
prioritised their diversity goals over upsetting a few applecarts (they did
annoy people) - but was among the biggest FOSS4G’s ever (maybe bigger than
boston!), and definitely one of the funnest and most interesting - I think
there’s merit in breaking some old conventions from time to time.

Allright, back to logistics and getting stuff done. Sponsors to e-mail, AV
hire to investigate...

Cheers





On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 11:54, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm in agreement with what Daniel said too.
>
> I think we're done our best. While we may not have achieved everything we
> hoped for, we do have an awesome selection of presentations from diverse
> locations (based on titles and abstracts) and enough gender diversity.
>
> We've made sure that keynotes are gender diverse, and we'll do the same
> with the panelists.
>
> I think we just need to look forwards, and keep doing our best. That's
> enough.
>
> On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 11:48 Andrew Harvey <andrew at alantgeo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Sep 2018, at 11:31 AM, Daniel Silk wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 12:26 PM adam steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think Sarah has some great points. We can be brave and say ‘well, we
>> didn’t get what we expect, so we have N slots available for a round 2 CFP,
>> which is open only for women’
>>
>>
>> I don't see Sarah's email, I guess it didn't come through to the list?
>>
>>
>> The strategy we would employ is this:
>>
>> - Open a second call for papers, be open about our failure to attract a
>> speaker cohort that reflects the community in the first round.
>>
>>
>> Alyssa Wright's talk at State of the Map 2013 noted that:
>>  - 3% of contributions to OpenStreetMap are by women
>>  - 1% of participants in open source communities are women
>>
>>
>> What do the women on this list feel about being focussed on as per a
>> specific CFP and community vote?
>>
>>
>>
>> **We could further restrict the vote to women - talks by women, for
>> women? Why not? effectively we arguably right now have talks by men for men
>> :D
>>
>>
>> We've taken a similar approach to
>> https://geekfeminism.org/2012/05/21/how-i-got-50-women-speakers-at-my-tech-conference/
>> and
>> https://2012.jsconf.eu/2012/09/17/beating-the-odds-how-we-got-25-percent-women-speakers.html
>> and http://conference.hopper.org.nz/#selection and
>> https://hbr.org/2014/01/theres-no-excuse-for-all-white-male-panels.
>>
>> And a lot of these resources + about commentary on Twitter etc is pretty
>> explicit about this point:
>>
>> if you are going around asking people to speak at your event and they are
>> generally under-represented at your event (say, women at a tech
>> conference), you need to avoid treating them in a special way.
>>
>>
>> I think these proposals are going waaay down this route.
>>
>> There's obviously a need here to do better within this community on a
>> daily basis, not just a one off effort in trying to achieve a diverse
>> speaker line-up for a conference.
>> The first would make the second a lot easier.
>>
>>
>> +1 to all these points.
>>
>> I'm -1 to extending the CFP to one specific demographic. If it's extended
>> I think it should be non-discriminatory.
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