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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">+0.5 – without the note about the session for free – we risk people coming, presenting, and leaving ( well ,that would happen with academics that sometimes only care about the publication, to be cynical), with the note
from Alex ( about the monologue/dialog – that is up to the presenter). I would loath to end up with empty rooms, and speakers coming, speaking, and leaving ( and boy, have I seen this happening a lot anyway).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Just in general:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">For me offering discounts to speakers would be really weird. I have NEVER been at a conference where the main expectation ( and the bulk of the audience) were not the presenters. We explicitly put this into our calls
for papers in other conferences:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">GIScience (melbourne this year)“</span><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Roboto Condensed";color:#333333;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;background:white">Publication.</span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Roboto Condensed";color:#333333;background:white"> In
order for an accepted paper to be published in the conference proceedings (full papers, short papers) or included in the conference program (extended abstracts), at least one of the paper authors has to register by the author registration deadline above.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">” (for academics, publication = participation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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register and attend the conference to present the accepted submission. Otherwise, the accepted submission will not appear in the conference proceedings or in the ACM Digital Library version of the conference proceedings.</span><span lang="EN-GB">”</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Locate ( a professional conference) had somehowed discounted tickets. But I note the difference between Locate ( Speaker tickets ~850) and the other academic ones is in the cost. GIScience and ACM Sigpsatial are closer
to us around 500 if I recall, no commercial inputs. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Alex Leith <alexgleith@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 27 June 2018 at 9:19 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Jonah Sullivan <jonahsullivan79@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org" <foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] Conference Presenters and their Attendance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For all the conferences I've attended, presenters have been discounted too. But this is not the tradition in the FOSS4G space, for example, the Dar Es Salaam conference has early bird discounts, but no others: <a href="https://2018.foss4g.or.tz/EventManagement/public/e/1/foss4g-2018-dar-es-salaam">https://2018.foss4g.or.tz/EventManagement/public/e/1/foss4g-2018-dar-es-salaam</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding your suggestion in the wording, you're probably right that it needs tweaking.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 09:16 Jonah Sullivan <<a href="mailto:jonahsullivan79@gmail.com">jonahsullivan79@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think every conference I've presented at (a couple every year) has had reduced price tickets for presenters.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've also always had my employer pay the fees so the discount didn't matter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think that having full price tickets for presenters is a break from convention.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also think that the statement about having a "<i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">minimal distinction between presenters and attendees"</span></i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> is disingenuous, especially when
considering the academic presentations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Encouraging audience interaction is great, but I think that statement goes against the nature of a conference. Usually a presentation is a monologue (or even a soliloquy) where the presenter
is there to transmit a message from a position of authority and the audience receives it. It would be nice if the communication was a dialogue, but that isn't really possible with this format. A dialogue is more suitable to a panel or an open discussion, rather
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 27 Jun. 2018, 09:04 Alex Leith, <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just want to establish a policy direction on conference presenters.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My suggestion is that conference presenters are made aware that they need to register, but if they don't want to, they can attend their session and the break immediately afterwards. We can tell them something like the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>“We are aiming for an engaging and participatory conference, with minimal distinction between presenters and attendees. While we really appreciate all our presenters and would love to provide them with a free ticket, we have opted instead
to try and keep registration prices low and are asking presenters to purchase a registration. If that is not possible for a presenter, they may attend free of charge for the session they are presenting in, and the break immediately afterwards.”</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can I please have your views on this, and if we agree, I'll write it down somewhere.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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