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    <p>John, I'm looping in the foss4g conference committee  via our
      public email list. I wouldn't be surprised if a few will jump in
      with suggestions.<br>
    </p>
    <p> I'm hoping to be able to catch you tomorrow. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/7/18 7:53 pm, Hildebrandt, John
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes
            the Geoserver workshop talks to leveraging a collection of
            services together to deliver a HA deployment so would be a
            good match<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes
            happy for you to discuss with the committee memebrs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thoughts
            on our interaction? Provide Feedback
            <a
href="https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt"
              moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">here</span></a>.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">John
            Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector,
            Amazon Web Services
            <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                style="color:#0563C1">http://aws.amazon.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">E
            <a href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                style="color:#0563C1">johnhild@amazon.com</span></a> | M
            +61 428 968 555</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> S
            Kolo <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kolomes@gmail.com"><kolomes@gmail.com></a>
            <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 2, 2018 2:47 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Cameron Shorter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Hildebrandt, John <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com"><johnhild@amazon.com></a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner workshop,
            based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Cameron,<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">John - Ive implemented full SDI stacks
              in my work place (using virtualised infrastructure) and
              was hoping to take this knowledge into using AWS / Cloud
              services space.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">From a client perspective seeing how
              the components work in themselves is nice, seeing how they
              work in combo is better but importantly being able to
              adequately answer the questions " so when do I need
              component <x>" and "when would I use components
              <x><y> and <z>" of even more value. We
              are seeing more and more of our data migrate into the
              cloud so having an awareness of how to effectively
              leverage this would be great,<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Shaun<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 10:54 PM Cameron
              Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p>Hi John, would be great to have a chat, although I'm
                traveling till Tuesday and will likely be hard to catch
                before Wednesday.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>Workshops are presentation selection will be largely
                selected by the community. I think what you are
                suggesting will be well received.
                <o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>I'm interested to hear Shaun's thoughts and assuming
                you are ok with it, I'd like to discuss with other
                committee members.<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p>Cameron<o:p></o:p></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On 1/7/18 3:30 pm, Hildebrandt,
                  John wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Cameron</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes
                      I would be interested in presenting at the FOSS4G
                      conference in Melbourne. I could run my Geoserver
                      on AWS workshop plus we did 2 presentations and
                      another workshop at FOSS4G-NA that might be of
                      interest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We
                      have a free tier for user with details here:
                    </span><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/free/"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://aws.amazon.com/free/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Students
                      and Staff can get free access via the AWS Educate
                      program:
                    </span><a
                      href="https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Researchers
                      can apply for credits here:
                    </span><a
                      href="https://aws.amazon.com/research-credits/"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://aws.amazon.com/research-credits/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Startups
                      can leverage the AWS Activate program:
                    </span><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/activate/"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://aws.amazon.com/activate/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You
                      can use VM Import to import your VM image see
                      <a href="https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There
                      are other options you might like to look at as
                      well for hosting Geospatial applications.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Happy
                      to chat further during the week.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thoughts
                        on our interaction? Provide Feedback
                      </span><a
href="https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">here</span></a><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">John
                        Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect,
                        Public Sector, Amazon Web Services
                      </span><a href="http://aws.amazon.com/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">http://aws.amazon.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                          Cameron Shorter
                          <a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a>
                          <br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 29, 2018 8:53 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Hildebrandt, John <a
                            href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                            <johnhild@amazon.com></a><br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> Shaun Kolomeitz <a
                            href="mailto:kolomes@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><kolomes@gmail.com></a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed OSGeo stack
                          beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live,
                          presented at FOSS4G</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p>There are multiple possibilities, and I'm
                    interested to gauge your level of interest and
                    ability to commit.
                    <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>1. I understand you have created a OSGeo workshop.
                    Do you still have access to the material? Are you
                    interested in sharing it? Ideally under some open
                    license. I assume the material will need to be
                    updated to the latest versions of software. Would
                    you be interested in helping do this? Would you be
                    ok with someone else updating your material? Would
                    you be interested in presenting at the FOSS4G
                    conference in Melbourne?<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>2. For OSGeo workshops, there is potential to
                    tailor them to work within the cloud. Is there some
                    arrangement that could be set up to have free
                    student accounts to support this?<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>3. OSGeoLive is a Lubuntu linux distribution with
                    50 odd open source GIS applications + data + project
                    overviews and quickstarts. It is regularly used
                    within FOSS4G workshops, booted from a USB, Virtual
                    Machine (and sometimes from a DVD). It would be
                    great if we could extend it to work within the
                    cloud. I'm not sure how achievable this would be, or
                    how much work would be involved. It would be great
                    to tap into your experience in helping answer some
                    of these questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>Hopefully there is a good business case for AWS to
                    support these initiatives. Effectively it would be
                    training GIS people how to use AWS.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                      29/6/18 8:36 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote
                    style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Cameron</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Sounds
                        like a great idea keen to understand more and
                        how you think we might be able to help.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thoughts
                          on our interaction? Provide Feedback
                        </span><a
href="https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">here</span></a><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">John
                          Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect,
                          Public Sector, Amazon Web Services
                        </span><a href="http://aws.amazon.com/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">http://aws.amazon.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                            Cameron Shorter
                          </span><a
                            href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                            <br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 29, 2018 4:46 PM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> Hildebrandt, John </span><a
                            href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><johnhild@amazon.com></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
                            <b>Cc:</b> Shaun Kolomeitz </span><a
                            href="mailto:kolomes@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><kolomes@gmail.com></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed OSGeo stack
                            beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live,
                            presented at FOSS4G</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                        29/6/18 4:43 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote
                      style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                      <p>Hi John,<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Thanks for getting back. Below are some of the
                        emails that we have been trading around the idea
                        of creating an OSGeo stack beginner workshop,
                        making use of OSGeoLive, and potentially taking
                        it all to the cloud.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>It would be great to loop you in on these
                        conversations. As Shaun has noticed, you have
                        shown how to get OSGeo in the cloud in a
                        workshop. We'd be keen to work out how we can
                        build upon that.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p>Cameron<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                          Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:10 PM Cameron Shorter
                          <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                        folks,<br>
                        <br>
                        Shaun Kolomeitz and myself were recently
                        discussing the value that could <br>
                        be gained by setting up a "beginners OSGeo full
                        stack" workshop, which <br>
                        served multiple needs and communities.<br>
                        <br>
                        It would aim to help new users answer "when,
                        what and how should I use <br>
                        Open Source GIS".<br>
                        <br>
                        Initially we would target a workshop at
                        FOSS4G-Oceania [1] (in Melbourne <br>
                        Australia in November 2018)<br>
                        <br>
                        The aim would be to build upon OSGeo-Live [2],
                        with the intent that the <br>
                        training material would eventually become
                        distributed with OSGeo-Live. <br>
                        This brings the advantage that the training
                        course would be continually <br>
                        be getting updated with every software
                        distribution, and setup glitches <br>
                        would be significantly reduced because
                        everything would be pre-installed <br>
                        with OSGeo-Live.<br>
                        <br>
                        Ideally, we would be this course to be run on
                        the cloud. Again, the <br>
                        advantage here is that we would be taking
                        OSGeo-Live (along with OSGeo <br>
                        applications) into a cloud environment.<br>
                        <br>
                        In future versions, we would aim to team up with
                        geo4all, universities <br>
                        and educators, such that we can integrate
                        OSGeo-Live and courses, and <br>
                        help cross collaboration and maintenance between
                        projects, programmers <br>
                        and educators.<br>
                        <br>
                        The first thing we want to do is work out if
                        anyone is doing something <br>
                        similar, or have material we can make use of, or
                        have good ideas that we <br>
                        should incorporate, or who would like to join
                        us.<br>
                        <br>
                        Introducing Shaun:<br>
                        <br>
                        For those who don't know Shaun, he is someone
                        I've known for years. He <br>
                        has decades of experience with GIS, is an
                        advocate Open Source GIS, and <br>
                        is someone who has a track record of getting
                        things done.<br>
                        <br>
                        [1] <a href="http://foss4g-oceania.org/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://foss4g-oceania.org/</a><br>
                        <br>
                        [2] <a href="http://live.osgeo.org/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://live.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                          29/6/18 9:33 am, S Kolo wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote
                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cameron,<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">No,
                              I haven't yet. Just accessing the free AWS
                              servers requires credit card details
                              (which I’m nervous at giving them).<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                            haven’t heard from anyone about the workshop
                            idea except for the request to make it
                            project focused.<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">That
                            would be great  if you want to reach out.<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Shaun<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 9:29 am, Cameron
                                Shorter <<a
                                  href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote
                              style="border:none;border-left:solid
                              #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                              <div>
                                <p>Hey Shaun,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p>Have you had any luck connecting with
                                  AWS? I just noticed that two of the
                                  presenters live here in Australia.
                                  Herman Coomans even lives in
                                  Melbourne. I reckon we might be able
                                  to convince them to come along to the
                                  upcoming FOSS4G workshop.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p>If you haven't reached out to them,
                                  I'll do so now.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p><a
                                    href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hildebrandt-a134332"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hildebrandt-a134332</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p><a
                                    href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hermancoomans/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hermancoomans/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                    25/6/18 9:34 am, S Kolo wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <blockquote
                                  style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks
                                      Cameron,
                                      <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
                                        report looks good. <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ive
                                        got some time this week so have
                                        started doing my research.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It
                                        would be great if I could get my
                                        hands on the docs (or even a
                                        video) for this - <a
href="https://2018.foss4g-na.org/session/introduction-running-auto-scaling-geoserver-and-postgresqlpostgis-cloud-aws"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://2018.foss4g-na.org/session/introduction-running-auto-scaling-geoserver-and-postgresqlpostgis-cloud-aws</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ive
                                        joined the Brisbane Amazon Web
                                        Services interest group here to
                                        see if I can discuss techy stuff
                                        with them in terms of SDI. Maybe
                                        I can get away with a free site
                                        to do the testing initially.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'll
                                        join the foss4g-oceania and
                                        osgeolive list groups.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Shaun<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                        Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:27 AM
                                        Cameron Shorter <<a
                                          href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote
                                      style="border:none;border-left:solid
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                                          Shaun,
                                          <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It
                                            was great to talk with you
                                            yesterday. Your enthusiasm
                                            is contagious. <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                            love the idea of creating
                                            full stack Open Source
                                            training material.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                            put a proposal together for
                                            the UN to fund comprehensive
                                            training material here: <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Di-WxImfPq5oF2jeBblxNjY0JYJoXegLc5jaTPjufM/edit#heading=h.g1mf7fn4rfea"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Di-WxImfPq5oF2jeBblxNjY0JYJoXegLc5jaTPjufM/edit#heading=h.g1mf7fn4rfea</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This
                                            proposal never got up, but I
                                            think it has a lot of
                                            principles we can draw upon.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                            think that the formula we
                                            aim toward is:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">1.
                                            Create a "Lightning OSGeo
                                            Stack Workshop"<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2.
                                            Start with the OSGeo-Live
                                            distribution, with the
                                            intent that we will get our
                                            material into the OSGeo-Live
                                            distribution. I can
                                            facilitate that.
                                            <a
                                              href="http://live.osgeo.org"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">http://live.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">3.
                                            Take one example through
                                            Postgres/PostGIS,
                                            GeoServer/GeoNode, QGIS,
                                            OpenLayers/Leaflet.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">4.
                                            Target presenting at a
                                            FOSS4G workshop, which is a
                                            3 hour slot. (We might ask
                                            to get 2 x 3 hour slots - we
                                            can decide that later).<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">5.
                                            Aim to make the workshop
                                            sustainable, but inviting
                                            the community use review it,
                                            use it, update it. I can
                                            help facilitate that.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
                                            email lists I sit on, and
                                            which I think we can target
                                            are:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive</a>
                                              : Where we can get into
                                              the OSGeo-Live
                                              distribution<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a>
                                              : Potential source of
                                              collaborators from
                                              specific projects<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania</a>
                                            : To get us a slot at
                                            FOSS4G-Melbourne, and find
                                            Australian workshop
                                            collaborators.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geoforall"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geoforall</a>
                                            : Universities. More talk
                                            than action, but potential
                                            source of collaborators<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">*
                                            <a
                                              href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/un"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/un</a>
                                            : UN sponsored some training
                                            material we might want to
                                            use and get collaboration.
                                            Action here seems to be
                                            hidden within different
                                            companies.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If
                                            you only join one list, I'd
                                            say the foss4g-oceania is
                                            probably the one to join
                                            (initially), followed by
                                            osgeolive.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

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