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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree that volunteers shouldn’t need to pay provided that their access is limited, and Adam’s suggestion below seems a sensible one.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I added both of these items for discussion at today’s committee meeting (I’ll be an apology). For what it’s worth, I think we need a code of conduct/expectations for volunteers, as well as discussion about any legal obligations that we
may have (I’m not sure about that one).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of adam steer <adam.d.steer@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:21:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Bryant<br>
<b>Cc:</b> foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] Fwd: student/volunteer pricing</font>
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<div>I don’t think volunteers should pay, we can wear the catering costs.</div>
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<div>I think volunteers should get a t-shirt they can wear to identify them as helpers; then take home.</div>
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<div>I can see how there might be a call for some rules around that, ie what about people who volunteer for one session vs a full day? or one session vs both days? what about workshops?</div>
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<div>Maybe a full day is the minimum? ie you sign up for a session, but for the rest of the day if you’re there and in your volunteer t-shirt you’re on duty to help attendees and /or help out at the rego desk; and manage slipping in and out of sessions among
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<div>?? my .02, keep the ball rolling!</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 12:49, John Bryant <<a href="mailto:johnwbryant@gmail.com">johnwbryant@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Bringing this into the committee for discussion. A few weeks ago<span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>it was suggested that student
volunteers won't be able to afford the pricing @ $200... so need to perhaps revisit this.</span><br>
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From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Martin Tomko</strong> <span dir="ltr">
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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 11:52<br>
Subject: Re: student/volunteer pricing<br>
To: Alex Leith <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>>, John Bryant <<a href="mailto:johnwbryant@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnwbryant@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Sarah Goodwin <<a href="mailto:sarah.goodwin@monash.edu" target="_blank">sarah.goodwin@monash.edu</a>>, Philip Mallis <<a href="mailto:philip@philipmallis.com" target="_blank">philip@philipmallis.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">John, all,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I agree volunteers are a workforce here, and the least we can do is to get them in for free.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">That said, we should – if we want to be cautious – make sure we only seek as many volunteers as we really need ( and this can be relaxed later, if we are faring very well with rebgistrations).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">So, how many. FTE do we need? I can think of: registration desk for 4 days, 1x person per each parallel session (microphones, etc), and maybe a spare 1 for swaps, and 2 people to run around on the workshop/codesprint
day? Is that then 4+3*2+2+2*2=16 FTE? So avg 4 people per day, more on main conference days. Is this too many?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">What are the costs/loses from volunteers? We should provide them with catering, but maybe no swag ( but possibly a T-shirt) – so a cost of about $1500 at a guesstimate. Can we see whether we can pad this if our sponsoring
goes particularly well?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Alex Leith <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 19 July 2018 at 11:32 am<br>
<b>To: </b>John Bryant <<a href="mailto:johnwbryant@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnwbryant@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Martin Tomko <<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>>, Sarah Goodwin <<a href="mailto:sarah.goodwin@monash.edu" target="_blank">sarah.goodwin@monash.edu</a>>, Philip Mallis <<a href="mailto:philip@philipmallis.com" target="_blank">philip@philipmallis.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: student/volunteer pricing<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The way I see it, if a student volunteer is only helping out, then they shouldn't pay.
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<p class="MsoNormal">If they want to help out a bit, and see the conference too, then they should pay.<br>
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I've never had volunteer pricing before... never needed volunteers. We've had student pricing, though, and I think our price is cheap for that. But I guess it's not student pricing, it's "student volunteer" pricing, so it's different.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 at 07:11 John Bryant <<a href="mailto:johnwbryant@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnwbryant@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A few weeks ago it was suggested that student volunteers won't be able to afford the pricing @$200. I'm wondering if we should revisit this?
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've added it as an agenda item for this week's meeting - I thought we could perhaps have a brief discussion about it then, to understand the dimensions of the issue, and then take the discussion to an email thread. Does this sound like
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