<div dir="ltr">Interesting point. At F4G boston I went to an Azavea workshop which used open source (free as in pay nothing) tooling; but called to Azavea’s image analysis API (raster foundry?). It worked great, and the tools were useful even without using the paid-for data parts. We had temporary licenses for the day.<div><br></div><div>I also went to a GBDX workshop (sponsored content) - which again provided some insight which is useful beyond paying for GBDX.</div><div><br></div><div>There’s a mix there, I think the key is that if you propose a workshop using a tool people need to pay for, provide them a license for the day; and give skills which are also useful if you take the tool away.</div><div><br></div><div>(and one last hustle - anyone wanna co-propose an open storymap workshop?)<br><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 July 2018 at 16:54, Martin Tomko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomkom@unimelb.edu.au" target="_blank">tomkom@unimelb.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 Jul. 2018 4:08 pm, Andrew Harvey <<a href="mailto:andrew@alantgeo.com.au" target="_blank">andrew@alantgeo.com.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div>But the Free in Free and Open Source means freely licensed notfree as in cost (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_open-source_software" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/<wbr>wiki/Free_and_open-source_<wbr>software</a>).<br>
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<div>My point is simply it's a joint FOSS4G and State of the Map, and the OpenStreetMap talks, workshops, community day shouldn't need to be strictly free and open source (of course, it's nicer if they are, but I and other people coming from the SotM side are
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<div>On Mon, 30 Jul 2018, at 3:57 PM, Martin Tomko wrote:<br>
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, 30 July 2018 at 3:32 pm<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.<wbr>org</a>" <<a href="mailto:foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.<wbr>org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] Call for workshops winding up</span></span></span></span></p>
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<i>primary</i> message of the workshop/presentation would hopefully focus on geospatial open source/open data, OSM etc. But, if it contains content related to proprietary software that should be OK. I have definitely been thinking there would be an audience
 for 'hybrid' solutions, possibly even could be a focused session on day 2 for OZRI attendees to check out (another conversation for later?).</span></span></span><br>
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