<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)">
<style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
{mso-style-name:msonormal;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
{mso-list-id:2046058062;
mso-list-template-ids:733898952;}
ol
{margin-bottom:0cm;}
ul
{margin-bottom:0cm;}
--></style>
</head>
<body lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple">
<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">+1 from me, and I agree with John’s summarization of the situation too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">M.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Alex Leith <alexgleith@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 6 August 2018 at 9:24 am<br>
<b>To: </b>John Bryant <johnwbryant@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org" <foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] T-shirt supplier and sizes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think we need to call this one and commit.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">If we're agreeing on the provider and the three t-shirt cuts, then we need to implement that on the registration system, so I can do that.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I've discussed the logos issue with John, and in consideration of the discussion in this thread, I think that we should proceed with just our conference logo on the front of the t-shirts.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'll add that second line as a 'decision' on the next meeting's agenda for the record.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Alex<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 21:49 John Bryant <<a href="mailto:johnwbryant@gmail.com">johnwbryant@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-1 from me for sponsor & partner logos on the t-shirt. I have a few reasons for this:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
Personally, I feel the t-shirts would be much better without sponsor/partner logos on the back. My favourite FOSS4G t-shirts from the past few years are the ones that haven't had these.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
I'm not convinced of the value proposition for printing logos on the t-shirts. They aren't being provided to every conference attendee, only some registrants have so far opted to buy one. For Platinum sponsors, we have committed '<i>Prominent company logo on
conference memento (issued to all attendees)</i>' in the sponsorship prospectus, so the t-shirts won't meet this promise - we will have to come up with something else (I believe Daniel has some recommendations for this). Further, my clear impression from
all 3 Platinum sponsors to date is that the key value proposition for them is about supporting the development of this community, over and above the exposure they get.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
People are paying the full cost for these shirts, they're not being subsidised by sponsors, we shouldn't force them to wear advertising messages that aren't necessarily even desired by the sponsors themselves.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
I'm thinking of the moment when an attendee walks up to the registration desk on day 1 and we hand them their shirt. At that moment we have an opportunity to delight them with a piece of wearable art - putting sponsor logos on the back risks turning that delight
into a 'meh' moment. I know not everyone feels this strongly about conference t-shirts... but I'd wager those that are ambivalent about conference t-shirts probably won't shell out the $30 for one.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I'm fine with putting the logos on committee and volunteers t-shirts, they're free and they'll be prominent at the event.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I strongly agree we should affirm our commitment to generate value for partners and sponsors. There is work yet to do, but I'm confident this is on track.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>
FOSS4G-Oceania mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:FOSS4G-Oceania@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">FOSS4G-Oceania@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Alex Leith <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">0419 189 050<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>