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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">(apologies, a white mail weighing in).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I would not dare stating why there are less women represented in our submissions and community, just state that it is no good and their publicly facing involvement is lesser than their contribution to the discipline.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I wonder if we can learn something from the organisers of the PyConAU conference, judging purely by the twitter thread, it had a great diversity, and the community is certainly even more geeky than us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Similar for the RConf. Should we reach out, at least for best practice hints? I know that in R, there are some very vocal female present,which probably helps – Di Cook from Melbourne is one of those.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Better late than never…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">FOSS4G-Oceania <foss4g-oceania-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of adam steer <adam.d.steer@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 9:06 am<br>
<b>To: </b>Alex Leith <alexgleith@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>foss4g-oceania <foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [FOSS4G-Oceania] Forum on Diversity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve already invited all the people I know :D - and yes, a panel should reflect the community we *want*.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Let’s move CFP discussion to the other thread about an extended CFP - but continue working toward a decision!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 08:59, Alex Leith <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think if we run a panel we ensure that diverse voices are on it, even stacking against the “male, male and stale” pigeon hole.<br>
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I don’t think we need to start specifically organising aspects yet, but agreeing on the big picture is something we can do now.<br>
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Regarding what you’re saying Adam, I’m not against opening up CFP for diverse folks... but who’s to say that we’ll get any more than we already have? Maybe we need to specifically invite people we know? I should push Deanna from SIBA a bit harder to attend,
as her GeoRabble talk on 'Vitamin D for the Spatial Industry' was excellent. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 8:51 am, adam steer <<a href="mailto:adam.d.steer@gmail.com" target="_blank">adam.d.steer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cameron - low attendee at conference sessions happen all the time. Even when the community votes for things.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Everyone - please read this thread, but not because it is a shining example in OSgeo’s history of managing diversity:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There was an email thread "Diversity in FOSS4G" discussing some of these points:
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-August/thread.html" target="_blank">
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-August/thread.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(direct: <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-August/037710.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-August/037710.html</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The first few e-mails were great - then it went to both men explaining to women what women want to do; and non-scientists explaining to scientists how science works - all in one delicious e-mail thread. I responded to it - in a very, very,
very muted fashion. I was actually really fuming - I sometimes think about diving in again but just get too angry every time I think about it - so the conversation is effectively shut down and I’m hesitant to communicate with certain people involved because
of their communication style (I’m sure you all get that from me also from time to time).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reference to this research: <a href="http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797617741719" target="_blank">
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797617741719</a><br>
<a href="https://researchtheheadlines.org/2018/04/20/the-stem-gender-equality-paradox-from-fallacies-to-facts/" target="_blank">https://researchtheheadlines.org/2018/04/20/the-stem-gender-equality-paradox-from-fallacies-to-facts/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d be happy to do a journal club on this paper - maybe it’d be a good georabble? I’d love to see Sarah, or Martin, or Trisha weigh in (or any other academics in the community ). Actually, would someone who isn’t a white bloke like to
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<p class="MsoNormal">I certainly would not hold it up as an authoritative reference on why women leave STEM careers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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