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    <p>Hi John Hildenbandt,</p>
    <p>Great to hear you will be at the community day, and I'm excited
      by the possibility of being able to set up OSGeoLive in the cloud.</p>
    <p>I'm keen to make sure we can make the day count and suggest it
      would be good for us to work out what we want to achieve, identify
      what is realistic, identify what we need to have ready in advance,
      work out what volunteering opportunities there are (maybe some of
      the people from your workshop might want to join us).</p>
    <p>Do you have any suggested pre-reading links you'd suggest
      pointing us at?</p>
    <p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/10/18 10:18 am, Hildebrandt, John
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cameron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            have registered for your session on the community day so we
            can discuss moving to the cloud then.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            am running my workshop on the workshop day in morning which
            gives a walkthrough on running Geoserver in the cloud.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thoughts
              on our interaction? Provide Feedback
              <a
href="https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">here</span></a>.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">John
              Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector,
              Amazon Web Services
              <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                  style="color:#0563C1">http://aws.amazon.com</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">E
              <a href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">johnhild@amazon.com</span></a>
              | M +61 428 968 555</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
                lang="EN-US"> Cameron Shorter
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a>
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 4 July 2018 9:38 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Hildebrandt, John
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com"><johnhild@amazon.com></a>; Shaun Kolomeitz
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kolomes@gmail.com"><kolomes@gmail.com></a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner
                workshop, based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p>John, I'm looping in the foss4g conference committee  via our
          public email list. I wouldn't be surprised if a few will jump
          in with suggestions.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>I'm hoping to be able to catch you tomorrow. <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Cheers, Cameron<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 3/7/18 7:53 pm, Hildebrandt, John
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes
              the Geoserver workshop talks to leveraging a collection of
              services together to deliver a HA deployment so would be a
              good match</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes
              happy for you to discuss with the committee memebrs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thoughts
              on our interaction? Provide Feedback
              <a
href="https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">here</span></a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">John
              Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect, Public Sector,
              Amazon Web Services
              <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                  style="color:#0563C1">http://aws.amazon.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">E
              <a href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">johnhild@amazon.com</span></a>
              | M +61 428 968 555</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> S
              Kolo
              <a href="mailto:kolomes@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><kolomes@gmail.com></a>
              <br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 2, 2018 2:47 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Cameron Shorter <a
                href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> Hildebrandt, John <a
                href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><johnhild@amazon.com></a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed OSGeo stack beginner
              workshop, based on OSGeo-Live, presented at FOSS4G</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Cameron,<o:p></o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">John - Ive implemented full SDI
                stacks in my work place (using virtualised
                infrastructure) and was hoping to take this knowledge
                into using AWS / Cloud services space.<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">From a client perspective seeing how
                the components work in themselves is nice, seeing how
                they work in combo is better but importantly being able
                to adequately answer the questions " so when do I need
                component <x>" and "when would I use components
                <x><y> and <z>" of even more value. We
                are seeing more and more of our data migrate into the
                cloud so having an awareness of how to effectively
                leverage this would be great,<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts ?<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Shaun<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 10:54 PM
                Cameron Shorter <<a
                  href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p>Hi John, would be great to have a chat, although I'm
                  traveling till Tuesday and will likely be hard to
                  catch before Wednesday.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p>Workshops are presentation selection will be largely
                  selected by the community. I think what you are
                  suggesting will be well received.
                  <o:p></o:p></p>
                <p>I'm interested to hear Shaun's thoughts and assuming
                  you are ok with it, I'd like to discuss with other
                  committee members.<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p>Cameron<o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On 1/7/18 3:30 pm, Hildebrandt,
                    John wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Cameron</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes
                        I would be interested in presenting at the
                        FOSS4G conference in Melbourne. I could run my
                        Geoserver on AWS workshop plus we did 2
                        presentations and another workshop at FOSS4G-NA
                        that might be of interest.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We
                        have a free tier for user with details here:
                      </span><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/free/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://aws.amazon.com/free/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Students
                        and Staff can get free access via the AWS
                        Educate program:
                      </span><a
                        href="https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Researchers
                        can apply for credits here:
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                        href="https://aws.amazon.com/research-credits/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://aws.amazon.com/research-credits/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Startups
                        can leverage the AWS Activate program:
                      </span><a href="https://aws.amazon.com/activate/"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">https://aws.amazon.com/activate/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You
                        can use VM Import to import your VM image see
                        <a href="https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/</a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There
                        are other options you might like to look at as
                        well for hosting Geospatial applications.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Happy
                        to chat further during the week.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thoughts
                          on our interaction? Provide Feedback
                        </span><a
href="https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">here</span></a><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">John
                          Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect,
                          Public Sector, Amazon Web Services
                        </span><a href="http://aws.amazon.com/"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">http://aws.amazon.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                            Cameron Shorter
                            <a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a>
                            <br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 29, 2018 8:53 PM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> Hildebrandt, John <a
                              href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                              <johnhild@amazon.com></a><br>
                            <b>Cc:</b> Shaun Kolomeitz <a
                              href="mailto:kolomes@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><kolomes@gmail.com></a><br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed OSGeo stack
                            beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live,
                            presented at FOSS4G</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>There are multiple possibilities, and I'm
                      interested to gauge your level of interest and
                      ability to commit.
                      <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>1. I understand you have created a OSGeo
                      workshop. Do you still have access to the
                      material? Are you interested in sharing it?
                      Ideally under some open license. I assume the
                      material will need to be updated to the latest
                      versions of software. Would you be interested in
                      helping do this? Would you be ok with someone else
                      updating your material? Would you be interested in
                      presenting at the FOSS4G conference in Melbourne?<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>2. For OSGeo workshops, there is potential to
                      tailor them to work within the cloud. Is there
                      some arrangement that could be set up to have free
                      student accounts to support this?<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>3. OSGeoLive is a Lubuntu linux distribution with
                      50 odd open source GIS applications + data +
                      project overviews and quickstarts. It is regularly
                      used within FOSS4G workshops, booted from a USB,
                      Virtual Machine (and sometimes from a DVD). It
                      would be great if we could extend it to work
                      within the cloud. I'm not sure how achievable this
                      would be, or how much work would be involved. It
                      would be great to tap into your experience in
                      helping answer some of these questions.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>Hopefully there is a good business case for AWS
                      to support these initiatives. Effectively it would
                      be training GIS people how to use AWS.<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                        29/6/18 8:36 pm, Hildebrandt, John wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote
                      style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Cameron</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Sounds
                          like a great idea keen to understand more and
                          how you think we might be able to help.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thoughts
                            on our interaction? Provide Feedback
                          </span><a
href="https://feedback.aws.amazon.com/?ea=johnhild&fn=John&ln=Hildebrandt"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">here</span></a><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A">John
                            Hildebrandt Principal Solutions Architect,
                            Public Sector, Amazon Web Services
                          </span><a href="http://aws.amazon.com/"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">http://aws.amazon.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                          1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                              Cameron Shorter
                            </span><a
                              href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                              <br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 29, 2018 4:46 PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Hildebrandt, John </span><a
                              href="mailto:johnhild@amazon.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><johnhild@amazon.com></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Shaun Kolomeitz </span><a
                              href="mailto:kolomes@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><kolomes@gmail.com></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed OSGeo stack
                              beginner workshop, based on OSGeo-Live,
                              presented at FOSS4G</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                          29/6/18 4:43 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote
                        style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                        <p>Hi John,<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p>Thanks for getting back. Below are some of
                          the emails that we have been trading around
                          the idea of creating an OSGeo stack beginner
                          workshop, making use of OSGeoLive, and
                          potentially taking it all to the cloud.<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p>It would be great to loop you in on these
                          conversations. As Shaun has noticed, you have
                          shown how to get OSGeo in the cloud in a
                          workshop. We'd be keen to work out how we can
                          build upon that.<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p>Cameron<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                            Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:10 PM Cameron Shorter
                            <<a
                              href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                          folks,<br>
                          <br>
                          Shaun Kolomeitz and myself were recently
                          discussing the value that could <br>
                          be gained by setting up a "beginners OSGeo
                          full stack" workshop, which <br>
                          served multiple needs and communities.<br>
                          <br>
                          It would aim to help new users answer "when,
                          what and how should I use <br>
                          Open Source GIS".<br>
                          <br>
                          Initially we would target a workshop at
                          FOSS4G-Oceania [1] (in Melbourne <br>
                          Australia in November 2018)<br>
                          <br>
                          The aim would be to build upon OSGeo-Live [2],
                          with the intent that the <br>
                          training material would eventually become
                          distributed with OSGeo-Live. <br>
                          This brings the advantage that the training
                          course would be continually <br>
                          be getting updated with every software
                          distribution, and setup glitches <br>
                          would be significantly reduced because
                          everything would be pre-installed <br>
                          with OSGeo-Live.<br>
                          <br>
                          Ideally, we would be this course to be run on
                          the cloud. Again, the <br>
                          advantage here is that we would be taking
                          OSGeo-Live (along with OSGeo <br>
                          applications) into a cloud environment.<br>
                          <br>
                          In future versions, we would aim to team up
                          with geo4all, universities <br>
                          and educators, such that we can integrate
                          OSGeo-Live and courses, and <br>
                          help cross collaboration and maintenance
                          between projects, programmers <br>
                          and educators.<br>
                          <br>
                          The first thing we want to do is work out if
                          anyone is doing something <br>
                          similar, or have material we can make use of,
                          or have good ideas that we <br>
                          should incorporate, or who would like to join
                          us.<br>
                          <br>
                          Introducing Shaun:<br>
                          <br>
                          For those who don't know Shaun, he is someone
                          I've known for years. He <br>
                          has decades of experience with GIS, is an
                          advocate Open Source GIS, and <br>
                          is someone who has a track record of getting
                          things done.<br>
                          <br>
                          [1] <a href="http://foss4g-oceania.org/"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://foss4g-oceania.org/</a><br>
                          <br>
                          [2] <a href="http://live.osgeo.org/"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://live.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                            29/6/18 9:33 am, S Kolo wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote
                          style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cameron,<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">No,
                                I haven't yet. Just accessing the free
                                AWS servers requires credit card details
                                (which I’m nervous at giving them).<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                              haven’t heard from anyone about the
                              workshop idea except for the request to
                              make it project focused.<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">That
                              would be great  if you want to reach out.<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Shaun<o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                  Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 9:29 am, Cameron
                                  Shorter <<a
                                    href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote
                                style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                <div>
                                  <p>Hey Shaun,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p>Have you had any luck connecting
                                    with AWS? I just noticed that two of
                                    the presenters live here in
                                    Australia. Herman Coomans even lives
                                    in Melbourne. I reckon we might be
                                    able to convince them to come along
                                    to the upcoming FOSS4G workshop.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p>If you haven't reached out to them,
                                    I'll do so now.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p><a
                                      href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hildebrandt-a134332"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-hildebrandt-a134332</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p><a
                                      href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hermancoomans/"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hermancoomans/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                      25/6/18 9:34 am, S Kolo wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks
                                        Cameron,
                                        <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
                                          report looks good. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ive
                                          got some time this week so
                                          have started doing my
                                          research.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It
                                          would be great if I could get
                                          my hands on the docs (or even
                                          a video) for this - <a
href="https://2018.foss4g-na.org/session/introduction-running-auto-scaling-geoserver-and-postgresqlpostgis-cloud-aws"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">https://2018.foss4g-na.org/session/introduction-running-auto-scaling-geoserver-and-postgresqlpostgis-cloud-aws</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ive
                                          joined the Brisbane Amazon Web
                                          Services interest group here
                                          to see if I can discuss techy
                                          stuff with them in terms of
                                          SDI. Maybe I can get away with
                                          a free site to do the testing
                                          initially.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'll
                                          join the foss4g-oceania and
                                          osgeolive list groups.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Shaun<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                          Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:27 AM
                                          Cameron Shorter <<a
                                            href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                                            Shaun,
                                            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It
                                              was great to talk with you
                                              yesterday. Your enthusiasm
                                              is contagious. <o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                              love the idea of creating
                                              full stack Open Source
                                              training material.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                              put a proposal together
                                              for the UN to fund
                                              comprehensive training
                                              material here: <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Di-WxImfPq5oF2jeBblxNjY0JYJoXegLc5jaTPjufM/edit#heading=h.g1mf7fn4rfea"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Di-WxImfPq5oF2jeBblxNjY0JYJoXegLc5jaTPjufM/edit#heading=h.g1mf7fn4rfea</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This
                                              proposal never got up, but
                                              I think it has a lot of
                                              principles we can draw
                                              upon.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                              think that the formula we
                                              aim toward is:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">1.
                                              Create a "Lightning OSGeo
                                              Stack Workshop"<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2.
                                              Start with the OSGeo-Live
                                              distribution, with the
                                              intent that we will get
                                              our material into the
                                              OSGeo-Live distribution. I
                                              can facilitate that.
                                              <a
                                                href="http://live.osgeo.org"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">http://live.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">3.
                                              Take one example through
                                              Postgres/PostGIS,
                                              GeoServer/GeoNode, QGIS,
                                              OpenLayers/Leaflet.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">4.
                                              Target presenting at a
                                              FOSS4G workshop, which is
                                              a 3 hour slot. (We might
                                              ask to get 2 x 3 hour
                                              slots - we can decide that
                                              later).<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">5.
                                              Aim to make the workshop
                                              sustainable, but inviting
                                              the community use review
                                              it, use it, update it. I
                                              can help facilitate that.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
                                              email lists I sit on, and
                                              which I think we can
                                              target are:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeolive</a>
                                                : Where we can get into
                                                the OSGeo-Live
                                                distribution<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss" target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss</a>
                                                : Potential source of
                                                collaborators from
                                                specific projects<o:p></o:p></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-oceania</a>
                                              : To get us a slot at
                                              FOSS4G-Melbourne, and find
                                              Australian workshop
                                              collaborators.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">* <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geoforall"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geoforall</a>
                                              : Universities. More talk
                                              than action, but potential
                                              source of collaborators<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">*
                                              <a
                                                href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/un"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/un</a>
                                              : UN sponsored some
                                              training material we might
                                              want to use and get
                                              collaboration. Action here
                                              seems to be hidden within
                                              different companies.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If
                                              you only join one list,
                                              I'd say the foss4g-oceania
                                              is probably the one to
                                              join (initially), followed
                                              by osgeolive.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                      </blockquote>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Cameron Shorter<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Technology Demystifier<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre>Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant<o:p></o:p></pre>
        <pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
        <pre>M +61 (0) 419 142 254<o:p></o:p></pre>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

M +61 (0) 419 142 254</pre>
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