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<p>I'm luke-warm re putting too much emphasis on surveys.</p>
<p>Will the community feel like they are adding significant value to
our decision making based on the effort they need to commit? If
not, we are at risk of being a burden to the community rather than
empowering them, and you will likely end up with a low voter turn
out rate. (I was disappointed by the level of post conference
engagement I got from attendees after foss4g 2009 compared to
pre-conference engagement).<br>
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<p>Making a good decision about a conference venue requires a
reasonable time commitment to consider a large number of factors.
Ideally you only burden a few trustworthy people to take on the
role (such as our conference committee).</p>
<p>I said something similar on the international foss4g conference
committee email list a while back:</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/11/18 6:55 pm, Alex Leith wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Great idea, David. We should set up a survey to go
out in the week following the conference, for sure. Evaluation
is key.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 18:27 David Dean <<a
href="mailto:ddean@ieee.org" moz-do-not-send="true">ddean@ieee.org</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Further to Andrew's point and the other
discussions here:
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<div>We should put this question to the conference attendees
(announce it at the opening, and give a report on answers
so far at the closing)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. Should we do a conference next year?</div>
<div>2. Where should we do it?</div>
<div>3. Should we keep FOSS4G and SoTM together?</div>
<div>4. Should we come up with a better name?</div>
<div>5. Whatever else comes to mind.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>By harvesting names and emails from Q2 in particular we
might be able to get some good people who are interested
in having (and maybe even hosting) the next event in their
area.</div>
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<div>- David</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 18:21 Andrew Harvey
<<a href="mailto:andrew@alantgeo.com.au"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">andrew@alantgeo.com.au</a>>
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<div>Tangential to this, I think after the conference we
should evaluate how well being a joint FOSS4G SotM has
worked out as opposed to standalone events.<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>I assume there are some attendees only interested
in FOSS4G, others only interested in SotM and others
interested in both.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Our sponsors, program, community day (and hopefully
attendees) are representative of both camps so I think
the committee has done a great job balancing this, but
if we are going to put out a post conference survey
hopefully we could try to find out from attendees how
well they thought the joint nature of the conference
worked.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>It's a huge effort to organise a conference though
and given the two overlap there's a big incentive to
continue this way.<br>
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<div>On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, at 5:50 PM, David Dean wrote:<br>
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<div>+1 and it would be great to see the next
conference in NZ or the Pacific islands, and try to
keep Australia to every second year.<br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>David<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri., 2 Nov. 2018, 17:14 Alex
Leith, <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>+1 from me<br>
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<div>And I’m keen to have some role on the next
committee for sure 🙂<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Let’s see those proposals!<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 2:37 pm,
adam steer <<a
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<div>Hi all<br>
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<div>+1 to Cameron's suggestions.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>...and also pre-volunteering to
join an organising committee if
they're happy to have me :)<br>
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<div>
<div>Only one request: please keep
letters of intent absolutely on
point, the committee are flat out!<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Cheers<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>
<div>Adam<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri., 2 Nov. 2018,
14:18 Cameron Shorter <<a
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target="_blank"
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wrote:<br>
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<p>And here are my thoughts:<br>
</p>
<p>+1 for running FOSS4G-Oceania
in 2019<br>
</p>
<div>I think there are two core
factors which are setting up
FOSS4G Oceania to be successful
this year:<br>
</div>
<div> 1. The University of
Melbourne has provided a free
venue, which has significantly
minimised attendance costs.<br>
</div>
<div> 2. We have had a large, very
engaged organising committee,
led by a very active chair
(thanks John).<br>
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<p>In selecting a future venue,
I'd be hopeful that these two
criteria are considered.<br>
</p>
<div>With regards to who should
decide:<br>
</div>
<div> * We haven't defined a
decision making process or
decided decision makers for
selecting future event venues.<br>
</div>
<div> * But, I've seen our
existing FOSS4G committee to be
committed, ethical, and
competent. I'd suggest selecting
our next venue should be
delegated to this committee, and
we can refine the process for
future years.<br>
</div>
<p>I'd suggest that people wishing
to propose a venue for foss4g
2019 discuss their ideas on this
email list, paying particular
attention to the two points
above.<br>
</p>
<p>I'd think an initial proposal
should be of similar depth to
the international FOSS4G "Letter
of Intent" stage, with the
FOSS4G international list of
questions being used as a
something to consider. <a
href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2019_Bid_Process#Letters_of_Intent"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2019_Bid_Process#Letters_of_Intent</a><br>
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<p><i>“Letters of Intent" are
limited to a maximum of two
(2) pages, and should answer
the following questions:</i><i><br>
</i><i>1. Who is your conference
chair?</i><i><br>
</i><i>2. Who else is on your
local organizing committee
(LOC)?</i><i><br>
</i><i>3. What is the experience
of your committee members with
similar events?</i><i><br>
</i><i>4. What is your proposed
venue? (include access to
Internet, room sizes, maximum
attendees)</i><i><br>
</i><i>5. What are your
provisional dates for the
conference?</i><i><br>
</i><i>6. Early thoughts on
prices of conference
attendance? (indicative
estimates)</i><i><br>
</i><i>7. What is the price
range and general location of
your proposed accommodations
and how is the</i><i><br>
</i><i>price-level in your area
in general (e.g. costs for
food, drinks)</i><i><br>
</i><i>8. Are you partnering
with other local
organizations?</i><i><br>
</i><i>9. What makes FOSS4G in
your proposed location and
with your team compelling?</i></p>
<p><br>
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<div>On 2/11/18 2:14 pm, Cameron
Shorter wrote:<br>
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<div>Our FOSS4G-Oceania
conference is shaping up to be
much bigger than originally
planned. We have attracted
significantly more sponsors,
attendees, and committee
members than originally
anticipated. <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> So the question raised at
today's committee meeting is:
<br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> * Should we hold this
event again next year? <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> * If so, where should we
hold it? <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> * And how should we go
about deciding?" <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> It would be a bonus if we
could announce next years
FOSS4G-Oceania event as we
close this year, which doesn't
leave much time. Within this
email thread I suggest we
discuss these and related
questions. <br>
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