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<p>I'm looping in suggestions from Charlie, Suchith and Thomas from
the Geoforall community.</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/11/18 12:06 am, Charlie Schweik
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<div>Wonderful to hear about this initiative! As many know,
we've tried to develop collective action around the
community development of FOSS4G educational material for
years -- a hard nut to crack! Perhaps this will develop
the critical mass to make it happen! I agree with your
"big vision". </div>
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<div>A couple thoughts:</div>
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<div>1) Any discussion of Summer of Docs that would provide
paid opportunities for students working with faculty/OSGeo
projects?</div>
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<div>That might lead to even more productivity (think -
educational content summer internships with OSGeo projects
or faculty to develop open access educational materials). <br>
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<div>2) One repository -- GeoAcademy, and obviously, QGIS'
tutorials</div>
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<div>Materials by Kurt Menke, Rick Smith, John Van Hoesen
and Phil Davis: <a
href="http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/</a>.
I believe Rick had set up a GitHub project for storing the
source. Not sure of update status. Obviously coordination
with the QGIS project and <a
href="https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/learning_resources.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">their tutorial page</a> would be
useful.</div>
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<div>3) To start - organize a "curriculum outline"?</div>
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<div>It would be helpful to collectively develop an
overarching curriculum (perhaps building on the GeoAcademy
work) or identify content areas? And a focus on not only
introduction but more advanced materials, and thought
provoking exercises and data, not just tutorials. For
example, I'm working on a new class on data analysis of
environmental data collected by quadcopters with
multispectral sensors. I'd be willing to contribute what I
develop to this effort. </div>
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<div>4) Organize for Modularity</div>
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<div>I'd encourage a modular strategy rather than complete
course work, and organize by topic area, and don't put
rules on content format to encourage submissions and less
"rule friction."</div>
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<div>5) There is the issue of where various content would be
hosted. But if we can get collective action/organization
around material development that issue can be addressed
next.</div>
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<div>Good luck FOSS4G Oceania folks! I hope you can get this
started! If a group forms, add me to the list, please.</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
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<div>Charlie Schweik</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/11/18 1:06 am, Mueller, Thomas
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cite="mid:E71608BB-8385-4DF4-A08C-7851F9B53113@calu.edu">Here is
what Philip Davis’s Group has completed via QGIS. I use his
materials in my classes and workshops
<div><a href="https://foss4geo.wordpress.com/">https://foss4geo.wordpress.com/</a></div>
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<div>Tom </div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/11/18 6:28 pm, Suchith Anand
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Thank you for this
excellent information. May I also request you to invite
representatives from universities and educational
organisations at the conference to join GeoForAll through our
website form. Really hoping we get more educational
organisations from the region joining us and building
momentum.</p>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 3:40 PM Cameron Shorter
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<p>Geoforall community,</p>
<p>FYI: At FOSS4G Oceania this coming week we plan to
discuss the possibility of creating universally maintained
QGIS material, with an eye to eventually building this the
cover all OSGeo training material. <br>
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<p>If there are initiates already in place that we should be
aware of, and should be aligning with, then please let us
know so that we can include them in our discussion. <br>
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<p>(See below for our local discussion so far)<br>
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<div class="m_-2235112232425948479moz-forward-container">Warm
regards, Cameron </div>
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<td>Re: [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] FOSS4G Birds of Feather
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Johan, great to hear of your interest and ability to bring
material to the project. A challenge of funded open source
(and open training) is sustainability after the funding
drys up. I'm hoping we can help address sustainability by
spreading maintenance across multiple community members
and funding sources.<br>
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Brad, you are asking some really good questions which I'm
hoping we can collectively discuss. I personally don't
have an agenda for format or delivery mechanisms. I think
we should be thinking about big vision, determine who
wants to contribute and what their priorities are, and
then focus on what we can sustainable build to address
immediate needs and material we can already make use of,
and also do our best to attract an active, international
community of maintainers. Feel free to share your
suggestions.<br>
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Cheers, Cameron<br>
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On 17/11/18 9:43 am, <a
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href="mailto:bradh@frogmouth.net" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bradh@frogmouth.net</a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Cameron,<br>
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Are you anticipating this being a training course or a
set of training material (e.g. some overview
presentations and tutorials) that could be used in a
course? What kind of delivery mechanisms do you
anticipate (e.g. face-to-face, self-paced, etc)? Who do
you anticipate the training audience to be? What would
the training outcome(s) / competencies be? Would this
include assessment?<br>
<br>
Brad<br>
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On 17/11/18 7:47 am, Jonah Sullivan wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">I'm looking forward to this
session. Thanks for organising it.<br>
I helped set up a QGIS MOOC with content created by, and
created for, Pacific Islanders.<br>
The project that got it going is winding down; it would
be nice to see it continue.<br>
Here is the link: <a
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href="http://pacgeo.org/edu/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://pacgeo.org/edu/</a><br>
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Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2018 7:24 AM<br>
To: Andrew Jeffrey <a
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Subject: [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] FOSS4G Birds of Feather
session: Sustaining a training documentation pipeline<br>
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Hi QGIS and FOSS4G folks,<br>
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I think a number of things are serendipitously coming
together to create the perfect opportunity to establish
collaborative building and maintaining OSGeo training
material in general, and QGIS in particular.<br>
(Templates, processes, tool chains developed for QGIS
could be rolled out to other projects in future
releases).<br>
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I was talking with Andrew Jeffrey and Chris Milne
yesterday about setting up a Birds of a Feather session
at the FOSS4G conference in Melbourne next week to
discuss this. Andrew and Chris mentined that their
employer, Chartis Technology is keen to collaboratively
build QGIS training.<br>
<br>
Sarah Maddox, tech writer from Google, is launching a
"Google Season of Docs" [1], from which we might be able
to tap into experienced tech writer resources.<br>
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I'm hoping that once we get momentum going, we could
draw in universities from Geo4All. Some universities
already have good training material we can start from.<br>
<br>
I'm interested from an OSGeoLive perspective - drawing
from our existing community and extending our
established documentation pipeline to also include
training material.<br>
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If you are interested to be involved, then speak up
(and/or look for details of the BoF session once we find
a venue and timeslot).<br>
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[1]<br>
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