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    <p>I'm looping in suggestions from Charlie, Suchith and Thomas from
      the Geoforall community.</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/11/18 12:06 am, Charlie Schweik
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          <div dir="ltr">Hi Cameron,
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            <div>Wonderful to hear about this initiative! As many know,
              we've tried to develop collective action around the
              community development of FOSS4G educational material for
              years -- a hard nut to crack! Perhaps this will develop
              the critical mass to make it happen! I agree with your
              "big vision". </div>
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            <div>A couple thoughts:</div>
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            <div>1) Any discussion of Summer of Docs that would provide
              paid opportunities for students working with faculty/OSGeo
              projects?</div>
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            <div>That might lead to even more productivity (think -
              educational content summer internships with OSGeo projects
              or faculty to develop open access educational materials). <br>
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            <div>2) One repository -- GeoAcademy, and obviously, QGIS'
              tutorials</div>
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            <div>Materials by Kurt Menke, Rick Smith, John Van Hoesen
              and Phil Davis: <a
                href="http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/"
                moz-do-not-send="true">http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/</a>.
              I believe Rick had set up a GitHub project for storing the
              source. Not sure of update status. Obviously coordination
              with the QGIS project and <a
                href="https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/learning_resources.html"
                moz-do-not-send="true">their tutorial page</a> would be
              useful.</div>
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            <div>3) To start - organize a "curriculum outline"?</div>
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            <div>It would be helpful to collectively develop an
              overarching curriculum (perhaps building on the GeoAcademy
              work) or identify content areas? And a focus on not only
              introduction but more advanced materials, and thought
              provoking exercises and data, not just tutorials. For
              example, I'm working on a new class on data analysis of
              environmental data collected by quadcopters with
              multispectral sensors. I'd be willing to contribute what I
              develop to this effort. </div>
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            <div>4) Organize for Modularity</div>
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            <div>I'd encourage a modular strategy rather than complete
              course work, and organize by topic area, and don't put
              rules on content format to encourage submissions and less
              "rule friction."</div>
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            <div>5) There is the issue of where various content would be
              hosted. But if we can get collective action/organization
              around  material development that issue can be addressed
              next.</div>
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            <div>Good luck FOSS4G Oceania folks! I hope you can get this
              started! If a group forms, add me to the list, please.</div>
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            <div>Thanks</div>
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            <div>Charlie Schweik</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/11/18 1:06 am, Mueller, Thomas
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      cite="mid:E71608BB-8385-4DF4-A08C-7851F9B53113@calu.edu">Here is
      what Philip Davis’s Group has completed via QGIS. I use his
      materials in my classes and workshops 
      <div><a href="https://foss4geo.wordpress.com/">https://foss4geo.wordpress.com/</a></div>
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      <div>Tom </div>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/11/18 6:28 pm, Suchith Anand
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        <p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Thank you for this
          excellent information.  May I also request you to invite
          representatives from universities and educational
          organisations at the conference to join GeoForAll through our
          website form. Really hoping we get more educational
          organisations from the region joining us and building
          momentum.</p>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 3:40 PM Cameron Shorter
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            <p>Geoforall community,</p>
            <p>FYI: At FOSS4G Oceania this coming week we plan to
              discuss the possibility of creating universally maintained
              QGIS material, with an eye to eventually building this the
              cover all OSGeo training material. <br>
            </p>
            <p>If there are initiates already in place that we should be
              aware of, and should be aligning with, then please let us
              know so that we can include them in our discussion. <br>
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            <p>(See below for our local discussion so far)<br>
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            <div class="m_-2235112232425948479moz-forward-container">Warm
              regards, Cameron </div>
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                    <td>Re: [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] FOSS4G Birds of Feather
                      session: Sustaining a training documentation
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                    <td>Sun, 18 Nov 2018 06:23:16 +1100</td>
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                    <td>Cameron Shorter <a
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                        href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><cameron.shorter@gmail.com></a></td>
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                    <td><a
                        class="m_-2235112232425948479moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:australian-qgis-user-group@googlegroups.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">australian-qgis-user-group@googlegroups.com</a></td>
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                        href="mailto:foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org</a>
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                        href="mailto:foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org"
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              Johan, great to hear of your interest and ability to bring
              material to the project. A challenge of funded open source
              (and open training) is sustainability after the funding
              drys up. I'm hoping we can help address sustainability by
              spreading maintenance across multiple community members
              and funding sources.<br>
              <br>
              Brad, you are asking some really good questions which I'm
              hoping we can collectively discuss. I personally don't
              have an agenda for format or delivery mechanisms. I think
              we should be thinking about big vision, determine who
              wants to contribute and what their priorities are, and
              then focus on what we can sustainable build to address
              immediate needs and material we can already make use of,
              and also do our best to attract an active, international
              community of maintainers. Feel free to share your
              suggestions.<br>
              <br>
              Cheers, Cameron<br>
              <br>
              On 17/11/18 9:43 am, <a
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                href="mailto:bradh@frogmouth.net" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">bradh@frogmouth.net</a> wrote:<br>
              <blockquote type="cite">Cameron,<br>
                <br>
                Are you anticipating this being a training course or a
                set of training material (e.g. some overview
                presentations and tutorials) that could be used in a
                course? What kind of delivery mechanisms do you
                anticipate (e.g. face-to-face, self-paced, etc)? Who do
                you anticipate the training audience to be? What would
                the training outcome(s) / competencies be? Would this
                include assessment?<br>
                <br>
                Brad<br>
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              On 17/11/18 7:47 am, Jonah Sullivan wrote:<br>
              <blockquote type="cite">I'm looking forward to this
                session. Thanks for organising it.<br>
                I helped set up a QGIS MOOC with content created by, and
                created for, Pacific Islanders.<br>
                The project that got it going is winding down; it would
                be nice to see it continue.<br>
                Here is the link: <a
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                From: <a
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href="mailto:australian-qgis-user-group@googlegroups.com"
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                On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter<br>
                Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2018 7:24 AM<br>
                To: Andrew Jeffrey <a
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                  href="mailto:aljeffrey83@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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href="mailto:australian-qgis-user-group@googlegroups.com"
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                  href="mailto:foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">foss4g-oceania@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                Cc: Sarah Maddox <a
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                  href="mailto:sarahmaddox@google.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><sarahmaddox@google.com></a><br>
                Subject: [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] FOSS4G Birds of Feather
                session: Sustaining a training documentation pipeline<br>
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                Hi QGIS and FOSS4G folks,<br>
                <br>
                I think a number of things are serendipitously coming
                together to create the perfect opportunity to establish
                collaborative building and maintaining OSGeo training
                material in general, and QGIS in particular.<br>
                (Templates, processes, tool chains developed for QGIS
                could be rolled out to other projects in future
                releases).<br>
                <br>
                I was talking with Andrew Jeffrey and Chris Milne
                yesterday about setting up a Birds of a Feather session
                at the FOSS4G conference in Melbourne next week to
                discuss this. Andrew and Chris mentined that their
                employer, Chartis Technology is keen to collaboratively
                build QGIS training.<br>
                <br>
                Sarah Maddox, tech writer from Google, is launching a
                "Google Season of Docs" [1], from which we might be able
                to tap into experienced tech writer resources.<br>
                <br>
                I'm hoping that once we get momentum going, we could
                draw in universities from Geo4All. Some universities
                already have good training material we can start from.<br>
                <br>
                I'm interested from an OSGeoLive perspective - drawing
                from our existing community and extending our
                established documentation pipeline to also include
                training material.<br>
                <br>
                If you are interested to be involved, then speak up
                (and/or look for details of the BoF session once we find
                a venue and timeslot).<br>
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                [1]<br>
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