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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Just a point - FOSS4G is about Free and Open Source GIS,
not proprietry talks. That is against the spirit of the conference in my opinion
- just as the name states. Otherwise we might as well invite the "Microsoft" of
GIS (we all know whom I'm talking about) to jump onboard. If users are
interested in that, then they should attend one of the ESRI User
conferences.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The debate may be a good idea, but it should be properly
mediated to prevent scope creep and have proper direction without getting ugly
(I have seen it happen before between professionals).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Just a note. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My Zim $5
worth.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=375562408-10102007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dewald.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> foss4g2008loc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:foss4g2008loc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Gavin
Fleming<BR><B>Sent:</B> 10 October 2007 09:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
foss4g2008loc@lists.osgeo.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Foss4g2008loc] Feedback from
GISSA National Council meeting on 4Oct<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I gave brief feedback
from FOSS4G2007 to the GISSA National Council and asked for their comments on
FOSS4G2008 organisation:</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">An idea was
proposed for <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">blending proprietary and FOSS
talks</SPAN></B>: have themed <EM><I><FONT
face="Times New Roman">rooms</FONT></I></EM> where delegates know certain
streams or cross-cutting content like FOSS will be presented. Previous
suggestions include having streams containing FOSS, though not necessarily
keeping them in the same room, or randomly interspersing talks with FOSS
content throughout a topic stream and just identifying them with some flag.
The point was also made that many delegates will see a talk for the
application, not for the tools used, i.e. to them it's not important whether
FOSS or proprietary GIS was used. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">marketing</SPAN></B> <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">message</SPAN></B> must be open and inclusive. While
we may run a formal FOSS vs proprietary debate, confrontation is not the
message. Most debate will occur in the presentations and corridors anyway.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Re topics, it was
suggested that we add <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">topics for business
and government</SPAN></B> delegates (pretty much what is being discussed on
OSGeo-Discuss at the moment) such as<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">FOSS GIS
migration strategies<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">FOSS GIS
business case, FOSS vs proprietary TCO, etc.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></LI></UL>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It was advised
that we aim to <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">break even</SPAN></B> with
600 delegates but plan space for 1000 delegates. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Carrin would send
a letter to GISSA members and vendors advising them of the conference and
asking them to <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">plan for the time and budget
to attend</SPAN></B>. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">A request was made
to <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">boost the academic component</SPAN></B>
of the conference. i.e. improve the options available to those who want peer
review and publication of their papers. Antony Cooper will participate in
this. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
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w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Local</SPAN></FONT></st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Cape</st1:PlaceType></st1:place> participation in the LOC should be
boosted. So far Inge is the main person on the ground there. <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Russell Hope</SPAN></B> might want to get more
involved and<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"> Derek Clarke </SPAN></B>will
be approached (<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Gavin</SPAN></B> will
approach Derek) <o:p></o:p>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The whole Council
asked to be placed on the LOC mailing list. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT>
<LI class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In the development
of an agreement between GISSA and OSGeo we need to clarify respective risks,
contributions and benefits and draft the agreement accordingly.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Gavin<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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