<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Gavin,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Re. the delegate number ranges (Break Even - 600, plan space for 1000) is this for the full conference ie. GISSA and FOSS4G2008 or for just FOSS4G2008 alone?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>The reason I ask is that I'd be a bit concerned if we could be assured of getting 600 attendees for FOSS4G2008 alone - and given that OSGeo is financially backing the event (without a lot of cash tolerance for potential losses) we need to be cautious in this regard.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Dave</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 10-Oct-07, at 3:00 AM, Gavin Fleming wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"> <O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <DIV class="Section1"> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">I gave brief feedback from FOSS4G2007 to the GISSA National Council and asked for their comments on FOSS4G2008 organisation:</SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P> </DIV> <UL type="disc"> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">An idea was proposed for <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">blending proprietary and FOSS talks</SPAN></B>: have themed <EM><I><FONT face="Times New Roman">rooms</FONT></I></EM> where delegates know certain streams or cross-cutting content like FOSS will be presented. Previous suggestions include having streams containing FOSS, though not necessarily keeping them in the same room, or randomly interspersing talks with FOSS content throughout a topic stream and just identifying them with some flag. The point was also made that many delegates will see a talk for the application, not for the tools used, i.e. to them it's not important whether FOSS or proprietary GIS was used. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">The <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">marketing</SPAN></B> <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">message</SPAN></B> must be open and inclusive. While we may run a formal FOSS vs proprietary debate, confrontation is not the message. Most debate will occur in the presentations and corridors anyway. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Re topics, it was suggested that we add <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">topics for business and government</SPAN></B> delegates (pretty much what is being discussed on OSGeo-Discuss at the moment) such as<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> <UL type="circle"> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">FOSS GIS migration strategies<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">FOSS GIS business case, FOSS vs proprietary TCO, etc. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> </UL> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">It was advised that we aim to <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">break even</SPAN></B> with 600 delegates but plan space for 1000 delegates. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Carrin would send a letter to GISSA members and vendors advising them of the conference and asking them to <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">plan for the time and budget to attend</SPAN></B>. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">A request was made to <B><SPAN style="font-weight: bold">boost the academic component</SPAN></B> of the conference. i.e. improve the options available to those who want peer review and publication of their papers. Antony Cooper will participate in this. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Local</SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACENAME> <ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on">Cape</ST1:PLACETYPE></ST1:PLACE> participation in the LOC should be boosted. So far Inge is the main person on the ground there. <B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Russell Hope</SPAN></B> might want to get more involved and<B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold"> Derek Clarke </SPAN></B>will be approached (<B><SPAN style="font-weight:bold">Gavin</SPAN></B> will approach Derek) <O:P></O:P></LI> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">The whole Council asked to be placed on the LOC mailing list. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> <LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">In the development of an agreement between GISSA and OSGeo we need to clarify respective risks, contributions and benefits and draft the agreement accordingly. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI> </UL><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt">Gavin<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> <DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> </DIV> </DIV> </O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">FOSS4G2008LOC mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:FOSS4G2008LOC@lists.osgeo.org">FOSS4G2008LOC@lists.osgeo.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2008loc">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2008loc</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>