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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Dave<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We’re treating the conferences as
one (‘FOSS4G 2008 incorporating GISSA 2008’). Our numbers are based
on AfricaGIS 2005 which was a joint GISSA conference that pulled 800 people,
600 from SA and 200 from the rest of the world. If for FOSS4G2008 we attract 200
from Europe and <st1:place w:st="on">North America</st1:place>, 200 from ‘the
rest of the world’ and 600 from SA again, we should be fairly confident
of the numbers. That’s why we plan to be covered even if only 600 attend,
which we think is unlikely. In terms of marketing, for those outside SA it can
be treated as ‘FOSS4G2008 with extras’. The joint aspect will be
marketed in SA. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Re financial backing, so far GISSA is
taking all the risk and we have no backing from OSGeo other than statements in
the RFP to the effect that OSGeo would provide bridging finance (which did not
come about and shouldn’t be necessary now) and that OSGeo would cover or
share losses if they should occur. That is why we are drafting an agreement
with OSGeo to cover these bases more formally. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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Dave McIlhagga [mailto:dmcilhagga@dmsolutions.ca] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 October 2007 04:16 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Gavin Fleming<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> foss4g2008loc@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Foss4g2008loc]
Feedback from GISSA National Council meeting on 4 Oct</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Gavin,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Re. the delegate number ranges (Break Even - 600, plan space for 1000)
is this for the full conference ie. GISSA and FOSS4G2008 or for just FOSS4G2008
alone?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The reason I ask is that I'd be a bit concerned if we could be assured
of getting 600 attendees for FOSS4G2008 alone - and given that OSGeo is
financially backing the event (without a lot of cash tolerance for potential
losses) we need to be cautious in this regard.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 10-Oct-07, at 3:00 AM, Gavin Fleming wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place">I
gave brief feedback from FOSS4G2007 to the GISSA National Council and asked for
their comments on FOSS4G2008 organisation:</span></font><O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>An idea was proposed for <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>blending proprietary and FOSS talks</span></b>:
have themed <em><i><font face="Times New Roman">rooms</font></i></em> where
delegates know certain streams or cross-cutting content like FOSS will be
presented. Previous suggestions include having streams containing FOSS,
though not necessarily keeping them in the same room, or randomly
interspersing talks with FOSS content throughout a topic stream and just
identifying them with some flag. The point was also made that many
delegates will see a talk for the application, not for the tools used,
i.e. to them it's not important whether FOSS or proprietary GIS was used. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>marketing</span></b>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>message</span></b> must be open and
inclusive. While we may run a formal FOSS vs proprietary debate,
confrontation is not the message. Most debate will occur in the
presentations and corridors anyway. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Re topics, it was suggested that we add <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>topics for business and government</span></b>
delegates (pretty much what is being discussed on OSGeo-Discuss at the
moment) such as<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ul>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>FOSS GIS migration strategies<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>FOSS GIS business case, FOSS vs proprietary TCO,
etc. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>It was advised that we aim to <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>break even</span></b> with 600 delegates but plan
space for 1000 delegates. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Carrin would send a letter to GISSA members and
vendors advising them of the conference and asking them to <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>plan for the time and budget to attend</span></b>.
<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>A request was made to <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>boost the academic component</span></b> of the conference. i.e.
improve the options available to those who want peer review and
publication of their papers. Antony Cooper will participate in this. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACENAME u1:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Local</span></font></st1:PlaceName></ST1:PLACENAME>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on"><ST1:PLACETYPE u1:st="on">Cape</st1:PlaceType></st1:place></ST1:PLACETYPE></ST1:PLACE>
participation in the LOC should be boosted. So far Inge is the main person
on the ground there. <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Russell Hope</span></b>
might want to get more involved and<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>
Derek Clarke </span></b>will be approached (<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>Gavin</span></b> will approach Derek) <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The whole Council asked to be placed on the LOC
mailing list. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>In the development of an agreement between GISSA and
OSGeo we need to clarify respective risks, contributions and benefits and
draft the agreement accordingly. <O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Gavin<O:P></O:P><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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