<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Gavin,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks for the clarification -- that now makes perfect sense.<BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Dave</DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 10-Oct-07, at 10:29 AM, Gavin Fleming wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Hi Dave</SPAN><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">We’re treating the conferences as one (‘FOSS4G 2008 incorporating GISSA 2008’). Our numbers are based on AfricaGIS 2005 which was a joint GISSA conference that pulled 800 people, 600 from SA and 200 from the rest of the world. If for FOSS4G2008 we attract 200 from Europe and </SPAN><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">North America</SPAN></ST1:PLACE><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">, 200 from ‘the rest of the world’ and 600 from SA again, we should be fairly confident of the numbers. That’s why we plan to be covered even if only 600 attend, which we think is unlikely. In terms of marketing, for those outside SA it can be treated as ‘FOSS4G2008 with extras’. The joint aspect will be marketed in SA.</SPAN><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Re financial backing, so far GISSA is taking all the risk and we have no backing from OSGeo other than statements in the RFP to the effect that OSGeo would provide bridging finance (which did not come about and shouldn’t be necessary now) and that OSGeo would cover or share losses if they should occur. That is why we are drafting an agreement with OSGeo to cover these bases more formally.</SPAN><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">regards</SPAN><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">Gavin</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT color="navy"><SPAN lang="EN-US" style="color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><DIV><DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; "></SPAN><HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">From:</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> Dave McIlhagga [<A href="mailto:dmcilhagga@dmsolutions.ca">mailto:dmcilhagga@dmsolutions.ca</A>] </SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> 10 October 2007 04:16 PM</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">To:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> Gavin Fleming</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> <A href="mailto:foss4g2008loc@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2008loc@lists.osgeo.org</A></SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> Re: [Foss4g2008loc] Feedback from GISSA National Council meeting on 4 Oct</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang="EN-US"><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">Hi Gavin,</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">Re. the delegate number ranges (Break Even - 600, plan space for 1000) is this for the full conference ie. GISSA and FOSS4G2008 or for just FOSS4G2008 alone?</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">The reason I ask is that I'd be a bit concerned if we could be assured of getting 600 attendees for FOSS4G2008 alone - and given that OSGeo is financially backing the event (without a lot of cash tolerance for potential losses) we need to be cautious in this regard.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">Dave</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><DIV><SPAN style="border-spacing: 0px 0px;text-align:auto;-khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto;orphans: 2;widows: 2;word-spacing:0px"><SPAN style="border-spacing: 0px 0px;text-align:auto;-khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto;orphans: 2;widows: 2;word-spacing:0px"><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><SPAN style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><SPAN style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black"><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><DIV><DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">On 10-Oct-07, at 3:00 AM, Gavin Fleming wrote:</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><BR style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><BR style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><DIV><DIV><P class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">I gave brief feedback from FOSS4G2007 to the GISSA National Council and asked for their comments on FOSS4G2008 organisation:</SPAN></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P></DIV><UL type="disc"><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">An idea was proposed for </SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">blending proprietary and FOSS talks</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">: have themed </SPAN><EM style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-style: italic; "><I style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-style: italic; "><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-style: italic; ">rooms</SPAN></FONT></I></EM><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> where delegates know certain streams or cross-cutting content like FOSS will be presented. Previous suggestions include having streams containing FOSS, though not necessarily keeping them in the same room, or randomly interspersing talks with FOSS content throughout a topic stream and just identifying them with some flag. The point was also made that many delegates will see a talk for the application, not for the tools used, i.e. to them it's not important whether FOSS or proprietary GIS was used.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">The </SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">marketing</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">message</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> must be open and inclusive. While we may run a formal FOSS vs proprietary debate, confrontation is not the message. Most debate will occur in the presentations and corridors anyway.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">Re topics, it was suggested that we add </SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">topics for business and government</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> delegates (pretty much what is being discussed on OSGeo-Discuss at the moment) such as</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI></UL><UL type="disc"><UL type="circle"><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">FOSS GIS migration strategies</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">FOSS GIS business case, FOSS vs proprietary TCO, etc.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI></UL></UL><UL type="disc"><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">It was advised that we aim to </SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">break even</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> with 600 delegates but plan space for 1000 delegates.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">Carrin would send a letter to GISSA members and vendors advising them of the conference and asking them to </SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">plan for the time and budget to attend</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">A request was made to </SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight: bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">boost the academic component</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> of the conference. i.e. improve the options available to those who want peer review and publication of their papers. Antony Cooper will participate in this.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACENAME u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">Local</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACENAME></ST1:PLACE></ST1:PLACENAME><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACETYPE u1:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">Cape</SPAN></ST1:PLACETYPE></ST1:PLACETYPE></ST1:PLACE><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> participation in the LOC should be boosted. So far Inge is the main person on the ground there. </SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">Russell Hope</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> might want to get more involved and</SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "> Derek Clarke </SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">will be approached (</SPAN><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight: bold; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; ">Gavin</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> will approach Derek)</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></LI><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; ">The whole Council asked to be placed on the LOC mailing list.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></LI><LI class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; 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