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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To fill you in – this thread jumped
from the core LOC list as a budget discussion to this broader list, so there
wasn’t much of a thread to follow.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have PC hire lined up for the workshops
but in the past 10 days have been considering options to buy PCs rather than
hire. Buying does cost more but then our (your) money doesn’t go into a
bottomless pit – GISSA and OSGeo get to have a say in how 100 PCs get
used for GIS in education after FOSS4G. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have a supplier who’s giving us
substantially less than wholesale prices on a fairly high-end PC (incl screen)
for around R4500, including loading the image we require for the workshops. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Zoltan we haven’t gone down your
route but for education your config triples the impact we could make. If you
want to put a hardware quote together pls do so asap if you think we could use
them first with XP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>XP has to be loaded for the FOSS4G workshops
as some workshops require Windows. Linux workshops will just use LiveCD or USB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>But Linux could be loaded after the
conference.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The budget decision is ultimately OSGeo
and GISSA’s call; we hope to have that in a day or two. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Gavin
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> foss4g2008loc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:foss4g2008loc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Zoltan Szecsei<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 02 September 2008 02:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> FOSS4G2008 local organising
committee<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Foss4g2008loc] PC's
for FOSS4G</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>burnie nawn wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<br>
So the question remains:<br>
Do we buy or do we hire, and if we buy, what do we do with the PC's?<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Apologies for not following this thread in detail, but do we have any quotes
for purchasing the PCs?<br>
What is the required config?<br>
<br>
Before you all jump on me about the config question, I want to propose
multiseat Linux boxes - hence we would need to know if the software that needs
to run on this PCs, will cope with this sort of config.<br>
<br>
Just (not so) BTW: I have been using 3-seater multiseat Ubuntu boxes in my GIS
map compilation production line faultlessly for the last 2 years.<br>
Typical config is: Motherboard with 3 PCI Express slots, 3 VGA cards, 3 LCD
monitors and 3 USB keyboard/mouse inputs. So, 1 computer, three simultaneous
users.<br>
Tou can go higher than 3, but finding the right HW would be a challenge.<br>
<br>
We could also consider LTSP, but maybe not.<br>
<br>
I have the knowledge and buying power (ie: purchase components from direct
importers) to spec and purchase these machines and they could even be built by
the guys we buy the components from (typically R200 assembly charge) - but I do
not have the resources to load & configure Ubuntu Linux, nor to set up the
PCs at CTICC.<br>
<br>
Should we even be thinking of going down this road?<br>
<br>
my 2c<br>
Zoltan<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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