[Foss4g2009] Re: Geospatial Integration Showcase - meeting notes

[Bruce Bannerman]

That is a good suggestion Raj!
 
I think that this approach could get legs... and we don't necessarily
have to rely on vendors or FOSS4G project teams. There are any number of
integrators who may wish to demonstrate their skills.

A few of us could approach this suggestion from different angles.

(I will only have three days, before going on leave for two months
though. Hopefully, I can get an indication in that time from my side.)

Bruce


On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 18:30 +0530, Raj Singh wrote:
> Nope. We need to think deeply about the cost-benefit. Peer pressure  
> isn't going to be enough. How about a monetary prize? Cold, hard cash  
> is a great motivator. Get a sponsor, organize around their business  
> issues, and give away $10,000. That's a small price to pay for 3 or 4  
> prototype solutions. This is sort of like the design competitions that  
> architects love to use.
> 
> ---
> Raj
> 
> 
> On Nov 7, at 9:05 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
> 
> > Paul,
> >
> > I wasn't referring to your efforts for 2007.
> >
> > I'm looking at how we could possibly sell the concept for 2009, with  
> > the 'event' managed by OGC as an independent body.
> >
> > I take your and Simon's point on relative priorities though.
> >
> > Greg, what is your take on this from OGC? Do you think that a  
> > 'shootout' type event overseen by OGC and run on a virtual server  
> > environment as described in my earlier emails would get buy-in  
> > within industry, especially if it was co-located at a FOSS4G  
> > conference?
> >
> >
> > Bruce Bannerman
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Paul Ramsey <pramsey at cleverelephant.ca 
> > > wrote:
> > You think we didn't sell it that way? :)
> > ASAIK this isn't a sales problem it's an effort problem. "Come do a
> > bunch of work in addition to all the other preparation you will have
> > to do for this conference."
> > It's #12 on the priority list, no surprise it doesn't get done.
> > P
> >
> > 2008/11/6 Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>:
> > > sorry, resend as this email address wasn't subscribed to list.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Bruce Bannerman
> > > <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> How about if this was sold as Jeff McKenna alluded to during our
> > >> conference call?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Step up to the plate and show the world how good and how  
> > interoperable
> > >> your spatial software is.
> > >>
> > >> Compete on an even playing field, with a neutral umpire, using  
> > the same
> > >> data and server.
> > >>
> > >> The spatial world will be watching the results."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Of course, everyone will have the best software. If after the  
> > event they
> > >> find that they don't, then there will be an incentive to do  
> > better the
> > >> following year (at FOSS4Gnnnn).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> fwiw
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Bruce Bannerman
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Paul Ramsey [mailto:pramsey at cleverelephant.ca]
> > >> > Sent: Friday, 7 November 2008 4:32 AM
> > >> > To: mapbutcher
> > >> > Cc: Cameron Shorter; foss4g2009; Jeff McKenna; Bruce
> > >> > Bannerman; Greg Buehler; Justin Deoliveira
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Foss4g2009] Re: Geospatial Integration Showcase
> > >> > - meeting notes [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> > >> >
> > >> > The 2007 experience very much validates Simon. In the end,
> > >> > Justin and DaveP volunteered a good deal of time to put the
> > >> > foundation elements into place for a showcase (data gathered,
> > >> > documented with metadata on the wiki, loaded into public
> > >> > PostGIS instance) and nobody else showed up and helped.
> > >> > Vendors were too busy with other things to dedicate even the
> > >> > time to stand up a demo on the public data, despite lots of
> > >> > harassment on our part. Even folks like DM Solutions didn't  
> > step up.
> > >> >
> > >> > Catch-22, if you expect everyone to come and add their
> > >> > ingredients to the stew, they won't. If you just do it all
> > >> > yourself, well, it's not much of an "integration" showcase
> > >> > anymore, is it?
> > >> >
> > >> > P.
> > >> >
> > >> > 2008/11/6 mapbutcher <mapbutcher at mapbutcher.com>:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I think your proposed vision is valid and I'm not wanting to  
> > spread
> > >> > > FUD its just that i'd like to move the agenda beyond the
> > >> > vision. Even
> > >> > > providing a very basic infrastructure and basic
> > >> > scenario/data i think
> > >> > > you under estimate the work involved and more importantly i
> > >> > think we
> > >> > > run the risk of going where others have gone before?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
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