[Foss4g2009] Re: [Marketing] Re: [Foss4g2008loc] Integrationshowcase: Feedback

Mon Sep 22 11:03:23 EDT 2008

One approach to this "kind" of event which I find attractive is the
"real time build". Give a small team a task, introduced at the plenary
along with the team. Give them an open space on the floor where people
can come by and ask them how they are doing, what they are doing, what
they are using. Have them present their finished product at the end at
closing plenary.

The difficulty at that point condenses from organizing a dozen
recalcitrant vendors to just getting 3-4 volunteers to essentially
give up their conference time to play performance artist hacker.

P.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Gavin Fleming <GavinF at mintek.co.za> wrote:
> For 2008 we realised quite early on that we wouldn't have the required
> human and financial resources to pull off an integration showcase,
> although the LOC, Raj and others were certainly keen. 2007 tried and bit
> off more than they could chew I think. So although we have some template
> wiki pages for the showcase we didn't focus any effort on it. Some
> integration successes might emerge on site however - you never know what
> might happen with a few servers, a network and a big crowd of techies.
>
> One of our proposals was to host or repeat an OWS or GEOSS testbed event
> as part of FOSS4G.
>
> We certainly had no shortage of event scenarios, through South Africa's
> core involvement in GEOSS.
>
> Gavin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foss4g2009-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> [mailto:foss4g2009-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Tim Bowden
> Sent: 21 September 2008 04:00 AM
> To: Geoff Zeiss
> Cc: 'marketing at lists.osgeo.org'; FOSS4G2009 - general
> Subject: [Foss4g2009] Re: [Marketing] Re: [Foss4g2008loc]
> Integrationshowcase: Feedback
>
> Thanks Geoff,
>
> looks like we need to significantly rejig our integration showcase
> efforts for Sydney.  I believe if we do no more than duplicate what's
> already been done it will be a failure otherwise.  Your insights are
> valuable in helping us plan this.  Assuming we take Geoff's advice wrt
> the OGC, who would like to take the lead in getting them involved for
> Sydney?
>
> Issues:  Getting OSGeo projects to involve at the same level of
> participation at the proprietary vendors would require considerable
> resources for each project.  Perhaps each project would need a
> commercial sponsor or co-sponsors (ie, Refractions sponsors
> PostgreSQL/PostGIS, Lisasoft Geoserver, DM Solutions Mapserver, Autodesk
> (or local reseller?) Mapguide OS etc).  This way each would have the
> ability to maximise the marketing potential of the exercise.  Without
> that, I suspect it is much harder for a project to find the resources to
> fully participate.  Maybe this, and lack of a credible event scenario
> has been part of the problem to date?
>
> If we go down this route, can we get the OGC to bend their minds this
> way quickly enough to announce their in principle support in time for
> the Cape Town closing plenary Sydney sales slot?  Probably not, which is
> a pity.
>
> Regards,
> Tim Bowden
>
> On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 11:52 -0700, Geoff Zeiss wrote:
>> I have experienced some very successful interoperability (geospatial)
>>  workshops
>>
>> Important features - the OGC (greg buehler) organized them, this makes
>>  the workshop to be perceived as non-denominational - they focussed on
>>  open standards (wms, wfs, gml) - there were ~10 vendors involved, at
>>  FOSS4G I would suggest encouraging ESRI, Intergraph, MapInfo and
> other
>>  closed source vendors to participate, I expect that Autodesk would
>>  want to participate and focus on FDO - participation was organized in
>>  advance, greg put a lot of effort into signing up vendors and
> ensuring
>>  there were enough servers and clients from different vendors to make
>>  it interesting - primarily technical people from the vendors were
>>  involved - it was a mainstage event, so it got a lot of attention -
>>  there were significant publicity benefits to the participants, not
>>  participating was a negative - there was a scenario around a disaster
>>  management theme that made it very clear to the audience and
>>  participants how important interoperability is in the real world
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> geospatial.blogs.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: marketing-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <marketing-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
>> To: marketing at lists.osgeo.org <marketing at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Sent: Fri Sep 19 23:50:40 2008
>> Subject: [Marketing] Re: [Foss4g2008loc] Integration showcase:
> Feedback
>>
>> Tim,
>> I think these are very good questions. In case you don't get many
> answers
>> right now due to people being busy with other stuff you might want to
> add
>> it to the Conference and/or Marketing Committee agenda so we don't
> loose
>> sight of it again.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Arnulf.
>>
>> On Sat, September 20, 2008 06:44, Tim Bowden wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm looking for feedback on how the integration showcase has gone so
>> > far.  From what I understand, not many sponsors have been overly
>> > interested.  If so, this seems to be the same as Victoria last year.
> Given
>> > I'm helping the Sydney bid, and we're planning one, I'd like to
>> > get some ideas as to what works and doesn't.
>> >
>> > 1. Is it a case of not selling the showcase aggressively enough?
>> >
>> >
>> > 2. Has it been too hard for sponsors to understand how to use it or
> what
>> > they can do with it?
>> >
>> > 3. Do the sponsors just not see it as adding value for them?  From a
>> > FOSS pov, it's clear the value that integration between different
>> > ecosystems brings for us, but perhaps that same value proposition
> isn't
>> > there for vendors.  Thoughts?
>> >
>> > 4. Is there anything that could be done to increase the value
>> > proposition for sponsors?
>> >
>> > I understand things are a little busy right now, so if this is best
> left
>> > on the back burner till later, that's fine.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Tim Bowden
>> > --
>> > Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a
> mistake
>> > when you make it again.
>> >
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>>
>> --
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