[Foss4g2009] Re: FOSS4G Conference Presentations and an academic track

Volker Mische volker.mische at gmail.com
Sun May 31 14:23:06 EDT 2009


Sorry for the late reply I was ill the last few days. Adding such a
field should be easy (though a bit hack-ish ;) I hope I'll be fit enough
to have a look tomorrow.

Should I also add a file upload filed, so they can attach their
abstracts? Or should they email the abstracts? Emailing might be easier,
I'm not sure).

Just as a note: For the academic track, using OCS in the feature might
be a good idea. It's a hell lot of work to get it running, and it's
utterly complicated but made for such academic tracks. I've written mmy
own system as it was too complex to use it as a simple Abstract
submission system (without all the reviewing etc).

Cheers,
  Volker

Shoaib Burq wrote:
> +1 Yea adding a field asking presenters if they would like to be
> considered for inclusion in the academic track would make sense.
> If they say yes we also need to add a blurb showing the deadlines for
> submission as per:
> 
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Call4papers
> 
> Then someone will have to chase up presenters if they miss a deadline
> 
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Harley Prowse <HarleyP at geobiz.co.nz> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> I am getting enquiries from some who have already submitted abstracts as to how they can ensure their paper is considered for the academic track.
>>
>> We need to come up with a policy on this and this also raises an issue around how do we distinguish between normal and academic abstracts.  Hence I have added Volker to this email to get his thoughts on this.  Can we simply add a new field to the abstract page which is Academic (true/false).  Set all those that are already in their to false, and email them all to log back in to change it if they want.
>>
>> Or are we proposing a different abstract submission website for the academic abstracts?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Harley
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jorge Gustavo Rocha [mailto:jgr at di.uminho.pt]
>> Sent: 26 May 2009 11:01 a.m.
>> To: mapbutcher
>> Cc: Thierry Badard; foss4g2009; Chris Rizos; Harley Prowse; conference_dev; Cameron Shorter; Abbas Rajabifard; Cameron Shorter; Linlin GE; shoaib
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Re:FOSS4G Conference Presentations and an academictrack
>>
>> Thanks, Simon.
>>
>> The allocation seems reasonable, with the academic track running all
>> day, on Thursday, 22th. With 3 different sessions, we will try to keep
>> related papers on the same session, with nice titles for each section.
>>
>> Related to the site update, I'll go around to identify things we can
>> change to reflect the announcement of the academic track. I'll ask
>> Thierry to help me with that, and we will send the suggestions with cc
>> to Shoaib Burq.
>>
>> We need also someone to create a new mailing list for the scientific
>> committee. We must have more people joining the committee, to help
>> spread the word and have more people involved. When I need one for our
>> local chapter, Lorenzo created it for me. If there is one
>> “super-osgeo-user” reading this, please initiate a
>> scientific-committee-2009 [@lists.osgeo.org]. If it no so easy, I can
>> run one on our local chapter domain (but I would prefer one on
>> lists.osgeo.org).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jorge
>>
>> Ter, 2009-05-26 às 06:19 +1000, mapbutcher escreveu:
>>> Jorge,
>>>
>>>
>>> See comments inline:
>>>
>>>         1) We should put together the academic presentations. It's
>>>         more easy for
>>>         attendees to decide in advance where they wanna go.
>>>
>>>
>>> OK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         2) We should accept only good papers, even if they are only a
>>>         few. It's
>>>         a investment in quality, that will help us to raise the EIC
>>>         (Estimated
>>>         Impact of Conference). But I would say that we could accept
>>>         about 12 to
>>>         15 papers, maximum.
>>>
>>>         3) It's no my business, but I might suggest just 20 min. to
>>>         each
>>>         academic presentation, instead of the 30 min. scheduled.
>>>         Authors should
>>>         really focus on what is really important, instead of telling
>>>         all the
>>>         story from the beginning till the end.
>>>
>>>
>>> With 20 minutes each this fits in well with the current schedule
>>> sessions. I have made a suggestion that the academic track runs all
>>> day on Thursday 22nd in Parkside G04. Each session runs for 1hr and 30
>>> minutes  - so in the academic track you'd have 4 presentations per
>>> session with a 10 minute turn around allowance.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pm1bvJQodiW3WBYGU7MM0Og
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> See the sheet for the 22nd. Is this room a suitable size. More
>>> information on the room can be found here:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.scec.com.au/rooms/fact_sheet.cfm?ObjectID=128
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         4) Joining items 2) and 3), tell us how many papers we should
>>>         accept, to
>>>         keep the schedule consistent, in your opinion. If you work on
>>>         the
>>>         google's schedule spreadsheet, we would see immediately your
>>>         suggestions.
>>>
>>>
>>> 12 presentations would be required if the above schedule is suitable
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         5) We should update FOSS4G website to reflect today's
>>>         announcement.
>>>         Please feel free to request more information to update the
>>>         website. We
>>>         can help you with the contents.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, I've cc'd Shoaib in. I think a new dedicated page under the
>>> programme heading would be good - if you could provide the content to
>>> Shoaib he can arrange the site update. I also think we need to update
>>> the current presentation page and submission guide page to take into
>>> account the academic track
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Regards,
>>>
>>>         Jorge
>>>
>>>         Seg, 2009-05-25 às 20:46 +1000, mapbutcher escreveu:
>>>
>>>         > Jorge,
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > With regard to the allocation of presentation slots in the
>>>         > schedule. Would you like the presentations to be ran
>>>         consecutively in
>>>         > a single room where possible?
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > Cheers
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > Simon
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > 2009/5/22 Jorge Gustavo Rocha <jgr at di.uminho.pt>
>>>         >         Hi all,
>>>         >
>>>         >         Thanks Paul. I'm interested to go forward [at full
>>>         speed,
>>>         >         since we don't
>>>         >         have much time]. More people is necessary, so
>>>         Thierry's offer
>>>         >         is very
>>>         >         welcome.
>>>         >
>>>         >         I think the next steps should be:
>>>         >
>>>         >         0) Write down the call for [scientific/research]
>>>         papers, for
>>>         >         the
>>>         >         academic track (we can start with last year call)
>>>         >
>>>         >         1) Update FOSS4G 2009 web site, to announce the peer
>>>         reviewed
>>>         >         academic
>>>         >         track, pointing to call for papers
>>>         >                - Deadline for this track should be around
>>>         July 31th;
>>>         >                - Specific submission guidelines should be
>>>         added to
>>>         >         this track
>>>         >                - The conference scheduled should be updated
>>>         to have 3
>>>         >         or 4 sessions
>>>         >         with academic presentations (taking about 12 to 16
>>>         slots of
>>>         >         the 94
>>>         >         available ones)
>>>         >
>>>         >         1.1) Cameron could prepare a press release to
>>>         announce the
>>>         >         call, and to
>>>         >         get it posted to every mailing list
>>>         >
>>>         >         2) Create a representative scientific committee
>>>         (this can
>>>         >         start right
>>>         >         now; some other members can be added later), by:
>>>         >                - Inviting the members that previously act as
>>>         >         scientific
>>>         >         committee/reviewers
>>>         >                - Inviting people from the Spanish chapter,
>>>         that can do
>>>         >         this job next
>>>         >         year (maybe Lluís Vicens, from SITGA, Miguel R.
>>>         Luaces, from
>>>         >         Coruña
>>>         >         Univ., Victor Olaya, from Extremadura Univ.)
>>>         >                - Inviting Charlie Schweik, and someone else
>>>         from the
>>>         >         OSGeo-Edu
>>>         >                - Inviting people from Australia
>>>         >                - Inviting other known OSGeo chapter members,
>>>         related
>>>         >         to academic
>>>         >         duties and research
>>>         >                - Have some places for volunteers
>>>         >         With 20 members on the scientific committee, if each
>>>         can read
>>>         >         10 papers,
>>>         >         we can have 200 readings. So, if each paper is read
>>>         by 3
>>>         >         reviewers, we
>>>         >         can receive 60-70 papers for reviewing.
>>>         >
>>>         >         3) Making all possible contacts with reputed
>>>         journals/books,
>>>         >         to start a
>>>         >         reference publication related to OSGeo/FOSS4G.
>>>         Thierry
>>>         >         suggestion make
>>>         >         sense; we can work with other institutions like ICA
>>>         and alike
>>>         >         to have
>>>         >         the best possible printed publication, if we don't
>>>         have enough
>>>         >         high
>>>         >         quality papers to create our own volume.
>>>         >
>>>         >         4) Install and configure an open source platform to
>>>         handle the
>>>         >         blind
>>>         >         reviewing process (that's easy; OpenConf can be used
>>>         for the
>>>         >         job). The
>>>         >         reviewing process will take place in August.
>>>         >
>>>         >         Right now, we need some feedback from Cameron and
>>>         others to
>>>         >         know the
>>>         >         impact of this academic track in the current
>>>         schedule. Is the
>>>         >         July 31th
>>>         >         deadline ok? 12 to 16 papers is reasonable?
>>>         >
>>>         >         Regards,
>>>         >
>>>         >         Jorge
>>>         >         --
>>>         >         jorge gustavo rocha
>>>         >         departamento de informática
>>>         >         universidade do minho
>>>         >         4710-057 braga
>>>         >         portugal
>>>         >         N 41º33'44,5" W 8º23'40,5"
>>>         >         tel +351 253604470 fax +351 253604471 cel +351
>>>         927210173
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >         Qui, 2009-05-21 às 15:09 -0400, Thierry Badard
>>>         escreveu:
>>>         >         > Paul Ramsey a écrit :
>>>         >         > > More than anything else, the Sydney team needs
>>>         someone
>>>         >         with an
>>>         >         > > academic background to step up and take on the
>>>         academic
>>>         >         track:
>>>         >         > >
>>>         >         > > - organizing the peer review panel
>>>         >         > > - selecting the publication mechanism
>>>         >         > > - selecting the papers for the academic track
>>>         >         > >
>>>         >         > > In 2007 Tyler and members of the education
>>>         committee did
>>>         >         that for me,
>>>         >         > > which was invaluable. In 2008, a member of the
>>>         LOC was
>>>         >         sufficiently
>>>         >         > > academic to do it. For 2009, a volunteer from
>>>         the academic
>>>         >         community
>>>         >         > > is needed. Us ordinary folk don't understand
>>>         what makes a
>>>         >         good process
>>>         >         > > for this stuff, we need someone who does. Could
>>>         that
>>>         >         person be you,
>>>         >         > > Jorge?
>>>         >         > >
>>>         >         > > P
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         > Hi all,
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         > If Jorge is interested in, I could take it in
>>>         charge with
>>>         >         him. I have
>>>         >         > already been involved in lot of program or
>>>         scientific
>>>         >         committees and I
>>>         >         > have also organised different scientific tracks,
>>>         workshops
>>>         >         or events. In
>>>         >         > addition, as a co-chair of ICA WG on open source
>>>         geospatial
>>>         >         technologies
>>>         >         >   (see http://ica-opensource.scg.ulaval.ca), I
>>>         will be very
>>>         >         happy to
>>>         >         > engage a first effective collaboration between ICA
>>>         and OSGeo
>>>         >         around an
>>>         >         > academic/scientific track with publication of
>>>         selected
>>>         >         papers as an
>>>         >         > edited book.
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         > Cheers,
>>>         >         >
>>>         >         > Th.
>>>         >         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
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>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>
>>>         --
>>>
>>>         jorge gustavo rocha
>>>         departamento de informática
>>>         universidade do minho
>>>         4710-057 braga
>>>         portugal
>>>         N 41º33'44,5" W 8º23'40,5"
>>>         tel +351 253604470 fax +351 253604471 cel +351 927210173
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> jorge gustavo rocha
>> departamento de informática
>> universidade do minho
>> 4710-057 braga
>> portugal
>> N 41º33'44,5" W 8º23'40,5"
>> tel +351 253604470 fax +351 253604471 cel +351 927210173
>>
>>
>>
>>



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