<div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">1. RE. the end of Labs: i agree the effort required to organize labs is similar to workshops but labs add little value in addition to the workshops. So workshops trump labs </div><div dir="ltr">
<br></div><div dir="ltr">2. Workshop Content: There is no way to tell what kind of content we will get until we put out the Call for Workshops/Papers. But I agree catering for a range of competencies is better than just targeting beginners. I think the days of "Introduction-to-*" workshops for FOSS4G are fast coming to a close. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">3. Impact on Rooms: Similarly workshops can vary in attendance & popularity. It would be nice to have a range of room sizes. can we get estimates of attendance from previous years? No of rooms required will depend on how many concurrent workshops we will run. 6 has been the standard in the past. Assuming it is still 6 ... we need 6 rooms but which have a flexible size. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Any estimates Paul/Gavin?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Shoaib Burq<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">Ok,<br>
Out of your recommendations, I'd like to determine the impact on our program and what rooms we need to secure.<br>
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I'm hearing that labs during the conference are a logistics nightmare. Could you please expand on why this is the case. Is it because they are shorter than workshops, or the presenters are less experienced, or because they are running at the same time as presentations?<br>
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If we decide that labs don't run in parallel with presentations, then should we have 2 days or workshops, followed by 2 days of presentations? Should we run more workshops/labs in parallel on the first day? Or should we just decide to reduce the number of labs/workshops.<br>
Or do we decide that we run labs as before, however attendees need to bring their own laptop and run a LiveDVD (linux based) or VMWare image?<div><div></div><div><br>
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Paul Ramsey wrote:<br>
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Thanks for all the good framing questions Dave. I'm going to go down<br>
and cherrypick<br>
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On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Dave Patton <<a href="mailto:davep@confluence.org" target="_blank">davep@confluence.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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What is the timeframe for holding Workshops?<br>
How many Workshop slots should there be?<br>
3-hour slots?<br>
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I agree with Jeff, let the Labs die. Instead, go for two days of<br>
3-hour workshops, Mon/Tues, so you can get as much bang for the<br>
logistical buck as possible.<br>
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How many simultaneous slots?(e.g. 6 at once, like<br>
Victoria, making for a total of 12 Workshops)?<br>
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Decide post-facto when you've got your roster. Probable more than 4<br>
and no more than 6.<br>
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Any specific restrictions?<br>
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No, let the committee decide.<br>
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Audience balance for the Workshops?<br>
How many aimed at "beginners"?<br>
How many aimed at "intermediate"?<br>
How many aimed at "advanced"?<br>
How many aimed at "developers"?<br>
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Lots of beginner workshops and try to find topics of interest. Do not<br>
be afraid to schedule a beginner topic twice, if we're doing two days.<br>
Intro to PostGIS or Intro to OpenLayers or Intro to Mapserver could<br>
all probably run twice and still fill up.<br>
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Incremental Registration Cost for Workshop attendance?<br>
Aim to break even?<br>
Aim to make X profit?<br>
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Figure out the fixed expenses now (rooms, hardware, food) now and then<br>
see how "reasonable" various pricings above that number look.<br>
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