<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arnulf@osgeo.org">arnulf@osgeo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
All,<br>
having the OGC at FOSS4G in my opinion is a must. But they can probably cater for themselves when it comes to funding. Ideally the Sponsorship Prospectus will reference that the OGC participates at FOSS4G but not specify a separate sponsorship address for them. Makes sense?<br>
</blockquote><div><br>well explained<br>thx<br><br>lorenzo<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Arnulf.<br>
<br>
Lorenzo Becchi wrote:<br>
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hi Bruce and Raj,<br>
I personally consider an honour to have the CCIP event inside FOSS4G2010.<br>
I consider it a strategic event for both OGC and OSGeo.<br>
In this moment I need to publish the Sponsorship Prospectus and would like to know what make sense to write into it.<br>
Please, tell me if you still want to be part of FOSS4G. doors are open for you.<br>
If you want to participate, I agree about having two different lines of sponsorship. It makes poor sense to me to collect money for OGC. Please provide, ASAP, a text that introduce CCIP 2010 and how sponsors can support it.<br>
<br>
do you still need somebody from the spanish meteo?<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
lorenzo<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Raj Singh <<a href="mailto:rsingh@opengeospatial.org" target="_blank">rsingh@opengeospatial.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rsingh@opengeospatial.org" target="_blank">rsingh@opengeospatial.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Just to add some detail to the conversation. Bruce and I discussed<br>
that even if we didn't make CCIP an *integral* part of FOSS4G2010,<br>
we would still advocate for OGC and open source CCIP 2010<br>
participants to highlight their CCIP 2010 work in FOSS4G 2010<br>
workshops, presentations, and booths.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Raj<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Nov 23, at 6:34 PM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Tyler, Lorenzo and all,<br>
<br>
I'm sensing some reluctance to have a CCIP type of event at FOSS4G.<br>
<br>
Raj and I discussed this issue this morning and feel that we don't<br>
want to force this event on the FOSS4G community. We want to<br>
maintain<br>
good relations.<br>
<br>
We will begin making contingency plans and look at alternate events<br>
that we could run a CCIP type of event at.<br>
<br>
GSDI-12 is one possible alternative. It is also perhaps a better fit<br>
for the ideals of the event.<br>
<br>
<br>
Bruce<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Subject: RE: [Foss4g2010] Sponsorship Prospectus<br>
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<br>
<br>
G'day Tyler,<br>
<br>
I will put something together as soon as we're able.<br>
<br>
I have a call with Raj on Tuesday where we will discuss the<br>
best way to answer this. We will be preempting CCIP community<br>
discussion. Let me know if you need more than this email in<br>
the short term.<br>
<br>
Suffice to say that we aim to have a much more structured<br>
project approach to the 2010 event, with more time for<br>
planning and project delivery. I would ideally like to have a<br>
one day stream at FOSS4G-2010 dedicated to CCIP-2010 where<br>
participants could expose their work in more detail. We have<br>
yet to have this conversation with both communities though.<br>
We are also aiming for significantly higher sponsorship dollars.<br>
<br>
CCIP would bring in more revenue to FOSS4G in participants<br>
alone, exposing (some) to FOSS4G perhaps for the first time.<br>
It will also bring in revenue from Conference facilities etc.<br>
There will also be a great additional stream of marketing for<br>
FOSS4G-2010.<br>
<br>
Strategically, FOSS4G will be seen as great community<br>
partners of OGC and in doing something positive in the<br>
Climate arena to try and make systems interoperable and to<br>
help ensure that the real 'numbers' are available for<br>
scrutiny via open standards.<br>
<br>
I anticipate that the lessons learned will come out of the<br>
SWOT analysis.<br>
<br>
<br>
One thing that we would like to pursue with greater vigour<br>
this year is to how to get greater Open Source spatial<br>
participation in the event.<br>
<br>
One idea that I'm pursuing is the idea of CCIP Participant<br>
partnerships between science communities and spatial<br>
communities / vendors. We should be able to achieve this if<br>
we target the scenarios right. This may give OS Communities<br>
the opportunity to get involved via a 'science' sponsor,<br>
perhaps an organisation like my own.<br>
<br>
Anyway, these are preliminary thoughts that need to be worked<br>
through with the relevant communities.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Bruce<br>
<br>
<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: Tyler Mitchell [<a href="mailto:tmitchell.osgeo@shaw.ca" target="_blank">tmitchell.osgeo@shaw.ca</a><br></div></div>
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Subject: Re: [Foss4g2010] Sponsorship Prospectus<br>
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<br>
<br>
Hi Bruce, glad to here you've recovered enough ;)<br>
<br>
For me the CCIP process was a bit opaque - could you give<br>
Lorenzo and the rest of us an overview on the main benefit of<br>
running the process? e.g. how did it add value to the FOSS4G<br>
event - both subjectively and financially. And how much work<br>
did it require from someone on the LOC?<br>
<br>
Also, do you have any sort of "lessons learned" compiled<br>
anywhere?<br>
<br>
Thanks! G'day,<br>
Tyler<br>
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From: Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au" target="_blank">B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au</a><br></div><div class="im">
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Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:03 pm<br>
Subject: [Foss4g2010] Sponsorship Prospectus [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<br>
To: "'<a href="mailto:foss4g2010@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g2010@lists.osgeo.org</a><br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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Lorenzo,<br>
<br>
<br>
hi all,<br>
we've been revisiting the contents of the prospectus.<br>
We've set up prices and other details.<br>
<br>
there's still a couple of things, mostly about refining<br>
<br>
contents and using<br>
<br>
proper English, that should be done.<br>
<br>
we invite you all to contribute, in the wiki or in<br>
this list.<br>
<br>
the revision time will be until next monday then<br>
we'll pass<br>
<br>
the content to<br>
<br>
the designer for the final layout.<br>
<br>
here's the content of the prospectus:<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2010_Sponsorship_and_Exhibitor_Prosp" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2010_Sponsorship_and_Exhibitor_Prosp</a><br>
<br>
ectus><br>
<br>
Lorenzo<br>
<br>
<br>
I've had a quick look at the Prospectus.<br>
<br>
For CCIP-2009, we found that trying to get CCIP<br>
sponsorship for<br>
participants via the Conference Organiser and also OGC<br>
<br>
didn't work and<br>
<br>
was just plain confusing for potential participants.<br>
<br>
The FOSS4G CCIP sponsorship package offered very little to<br>
<br>
potential<br>
<br>
sponsors.<br>
<br>
<br>
In the end, we assigned the responsibility for obtaining<br>
<br>
sponsorship<br>
<br>
dollars to the OGC.<br>
<br>
<br>
The money that the OGC raised helped run the CCIP project.<br>
<br>
A substantial portion of the major CCIP Sponsor's funding<br>
<br>
came back to<br>
<br>
FOSS4G for booth, conference etc fees.<br>
<br>
I can give you these figures off line.<br>
<br>
<br>
In short, I'd leave the CCIP sponsorship arrangements with<br>
<br>
the OGC and<br>
<br>
negotiate suitable costs depending on CCIP-2010<br>
requirements.<br>
<br>
<br>
I'd say that you will be getting people attending<br>
<br>
FOSS4G-2010 just to<br>
<br>
see the results of CCIP-2010. We will need to ensure that<br>
<br>
there is a<br>
<br>
definite programe of interest presented. So there will be<br>
<br>
additional<br>
<br>
return there as well.<br>
<br>
<br>
Bruce<br>
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