<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Paul Ramsey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pramsey@cleverelephant.ca">pramsey@cleverelephant.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Lorenzo,<br>
<br>
Is it possible that you aren't or weren't on the board@ list when the<br>
review went by? The would explain this communications breakdown. </blockquote><div><br><br>yep, that's it<br>:)<br><br>thanks a lot for your clear resume, I really appreciate it.<br>I've been very busy lately and I had no time to reflect on all the aspects that were coming from the Board. I barely focused on day to day need for the conference.<br>
I suppose I have to apologize.<br>Tomorrow we have a face to face meeting with the LOC and it will be the moment to debate in detail about all suspended issues. I will relate on Wednesday.<br><br>Now I have more time to dedicate to communications, I'll try to mind the gap.<br>
;)<br><br>Lorenzo<br><br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">OSGeo<br>
(reasonably, I thnk) wants to approve the budget before passing off<br>
control to the LOC. It has done so the past three years. Everyone saw<br>
the budget and three people reviewed it, and asked questions<br>
[1][2][3]. Since the questions weren't answered it doesn't surprise me<br>
that no one jumped in and said "well, let's move this along to<br>
approval". Anyhow, that's my explanation for the apparent lack of<br>
urgency coming from board@<br>
<br>
As far as the actual suggestions in those comments goes, here's a<br>
response you can feel free to cut and paste:<br>
<br>
"Paul, Tyler, Jeff, thanks for your review and comments. With respect<br>
to the difference between the old wiki numbers and the budget, the<br>
numbers in the PDF are the ones. All fees, including the fees for the<br>
earlyearly registration are actually on the 2010 site now. With<br>
respect to your suggestions about early/late pricing differences,<br>
thanks, we've given this lots of thought and we're happy with the<br>
numbers as they stand. Since everyone who has reviewed the budget has<br>
declared it fit, would the board please move acceptance?"<br>
<br>
To use the FOSS analogy, FOSS4G2010 is your "feature" and the board is<br>
the PSC and you need to get an RFC past them before you can commit<br>
your feature to SVN. Acknowledge comments, accept or reject ideas,<br>
present your reasons and then ask for a decision to be made. It is<br>
your baby, everyone acknowledges that, but we also all have a stake in<br>
the outcome, so it's not unreasonable to review and approve the plan<br>
before setting things in motion.<br>
<br>
The board will have no further involvement in FOSS4G, except via the<br>
Board and Past Chair reps on the LOC (my understanding was that Arnulf<br>
and Claude were proposed for those roles [4]), who will primarily<br>
monitor progress and report back if and only if things go terribly<br>
wrong or the budget no longer matches the facts on the ground.<br>
<br>
This is what the RFP had to say about governance:<br>
<br>
"Following the committee's decision, there is a process of<br>
establishing a local organizing committee (LOC) which will include<br>
both local organizers and representatives of OSGeo. The LOC will be<br>
expected to operate within a budget framework to be approved by the<br>
OSGeo board."<br>
<br>
The board is as busy with their lives as you are, they do not have the<br>
time or energy for meddling in your conference over the next 9 months<br>
(and don't worry, nor do I).<br>
<br>
Yours,<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2009-December/003165.html" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2009-December/003165.html</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2009-December/003167.html" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2009-December/003167.html</a><br>
[3] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2009-December/003171.html" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2009-December/003171.html</a><br>
[4] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2009-December/003188.html" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2009-December/003188.html</a><br>
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Lorenzo Becchi <<a href="mailto:lorenzo@ominiverdi.com">lorenzo@ominiverdi.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Honestly guys, this situation is not clear at all.<br>
><br>
> From the LOC, we think we should have enough independence to decide when<br>
> it's time to move an initiative like opening subscriptions. We are happy to<br>
> have the chance to share the experience with others who organized this<br>
> conference before but we still need our freedom to move without asking<br>
> permission every time we do something important. We don't think this were<br>
> the agreements.<br>
><br>
> From the board and conference committee I see there's an important interest<br>
> to collaborate, an we are happy of it. Anyway, part of the support really<br>
> improves while part slows down the process.<br>
><br>
> I can't forget we are all volunteers and we are investing part, or much, of<br>
> our spare time into this. Personally I'm investing even more of my spare<br>
> time. For this I would like to invite every intervention to be targeted to<br>
> make things easier to the organization instead making things more<br>
> complicated.<br>
><br>
> If the board decide that me, or the LOC, are not good enough to organize<br>
> this event we are available to step back and leave the charge to somebody<br>
> else.<br>
> If instead the board think we are ok then, please, make our life easier.<br>
><br>
> regards<br>
> lorenzo<br>
><br>
><br>
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