<div dir="ltr">HI,<div style>Karel I completly agree with you: other conferences less expensive and even bigger provide such "service"</div><div style><br></div><div style>Maxi</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Karel Charvat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz" target="_blank">charvat@ccss.cz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="CS" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It depends on number of volunteer- revivers, usually every reader has responsibility for certain papers and he is making comments. Such number is high, but not enormous> Some conferences have more<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Karel<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:b.j.kobben@utwente.nl" target="_blank">b.j.kobben@utwente.nl</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:b.j.kobben@utwente.nl" target="_blank">b.j.kobben@utwente.nl</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz" target="_blank">charvat@ccss.cz</a>; <a href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com" target="_blank">volker.mische@gmail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>; <a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>; <a href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk" target="_blank">b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Foss4g2013] [OSGeo-Conf] presentation selection [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Any idea how much time putting "two three sentences" takes for > 300 abstracts?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Barend<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On 23-05-13 14:09, "Karel Charvat" <<a href="mailto:charvat@ccss.cz" target="_blank">charvat@ccss.cz</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Volker,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Usually it is similar on any conferences that it is done by volunteer. But<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">if there is publishing system put two three sentences and this automatically<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">distributed is not so big effort<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Karel<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From: Volker Mische [<a href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com</a>] <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:57 PM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To: Karel Charvat<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cc: 'Massimiliano Cannata'; <a href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>; 'Barry Rowlingson'<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] [Foss4g2013] presentation selection<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Karel,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I can again only speak of 2009, but back then the costs where there to cover<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">the venue and catering. There wasn't any money for the selection process. It<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">was mostly done in the freetime of the LOC members.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I agree that it would be cool to have such a feedback, but it would need<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">volunteers to do so.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Volker<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On 05/23/2013 01:18 PM, Karel Charvat wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear Volker, dear others,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I start follow discussion about selection process. I have to say, that <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I am not very satisfied with Volkers last email.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Why? The FOSS4G fee is comparable with the costs for large scientific <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">conferences. And usually on these conferences authors are obtaining <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">any feedback. It is help for them not only for future, but it could <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">help also in future development. I think, that all this could be done <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">automatically with publishing system. I think, that the budget for this<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">has to be adequate.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Karel<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">-----Original Message-----<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From: <a href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[<a href="mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mailto:conference_dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] On Behalf Of Volker <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Mische<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:03 PM<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">To: Massimiliano Cannata<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cc: <a href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>; <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>; <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Barry Rowlingson<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] [Foss4g2013] presentation selection <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi Maxi,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">sending back the results to the authors is really a lot of work. There <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">might be abstracts which are e.g. hardly understandable English. You <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">will just drop those without actually assign any relevance to them.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The time is of the LOC is really limited and making the selection <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">already takes hours (at least it was the case in 2009). Heaving even <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">more overhead would be to much.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Though perhaps it would make sense to have a chance to join the <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">selection process. So people who like to help out and to a thorough <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">review can do that.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Volker<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On 05/23/2013 12:14 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I agree that votes are not a guarantee of real interest. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Suppose you work for a large company that submit an abstract, you <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">will easily have 100 votes of all the employees but this does not <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">mean all of them will go to the conference and that the vote was<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote>
</blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">"driven".<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">At the same time, I like open and clear evaluation criteria, this <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">avoid (or at least limit) the acceptance of talk by "friendship", <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">that also I believe occur.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Something like evaluation rating:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">100 points maximum alssigned:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">- 40 for voting rank<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">- 20 for foss4g project relevance<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">- 20 fro.... etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">All the evaluation should then be sent back to the authors.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I Also would like to have some "inspiring" talk from people "outside"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(not only well know and great talker, than I like more content <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">respect to shows) to better understand: what others do? How do they see<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">OSGeo?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">What next? etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">And I would like to see rotation in successive FOSS4G as this is the <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">conference for the community, rather then for the novels to open <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">source that may have more opportunities to enter in contact with open <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">source in local events organized by local chapters... so I would like <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">to see CONTENT, NEWS, VISION rather then SHOWS and APPEAL.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Of course, this is only my 2 cents... ;-)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Maxi<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Volker Mische <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><<a href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com" target="_blank">volker.mische@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com%3e" target="_blank">mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Hi Bart,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> I didn't want to be fierce, but explaining my experience. I<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">especially<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> felt like replying as you gave me a reality check quite often on<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">topics<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> where I had a completely different view in the past.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> My problem with the community voting is, does it really reflect <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">what<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> community wants? I'm not saying the community is too stupid to <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">know<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">what<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> they really one and someone else needs to decide what's best. I think<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> the problem is the open voting. It's easy to get an bias in there.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
</blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> people that actually vote is a small subset of the people that will<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">be<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> at the conference, but the conference should please the whole<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">audience.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> I for example prefer developer centric talks. I don't care much about<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> talks that are about "I've used this and that open source <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">technology<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">to<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> do x and y" or about INSPIRE. Though there are probably quite a few<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> people from institutions that don't yet use an open source stack <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">or<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">want<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> to learn how to leverage open source when they need to meet the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">INSPIRE<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> goals. It would be valuable to have such presentations. This is <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">what<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> LOC is for, they can make the call to include those as well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Another example which is a bit artificial, it's about popular<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> presenters. Let's take Paul Ramsey as an example, he's one of the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
</blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">best<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> speakers I've ever been to at conferences. If he would submit 10<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">talks,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> probably all of them would get voted by the community (being it due<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote>
</blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">to<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> great abstracts or to know that Paul is presenting). But of course<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">you<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> don't want to have one person doing to many talks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> And finally the problem of people trying to abuse the public vote (or<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> have friends that try it). You can filter those out sometimes, <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">but<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">would<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> you then publish the filtered results or the raw data?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Though I think it's good to have this discussion. These thoughts have<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> previously only in my brain and never written down. So it hopefully<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> helps for future conferences to improve the process.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Volker<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> On 05/23/2013 06:51 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> > Given the fierce responses, I will think twice about ever making a<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> suggestion on a selection process for FOSS4G again. Sorry to have<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> spend my time on this.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> ><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> > Bart<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> ><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> > Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> ><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> > On May 23, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Bruce Bannerman<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au" target="_blank">B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au</a> <<a href="mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au%3e" target="_blank">mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> ><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Thanks Volker.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Agreed.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Can I suggest that if someone believes that they have a better<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> process, that they volunteer for the LOC of the next international<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> FOSS4G conference and try it then?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Bruce<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> ________________________________________<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> From: <a href="mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> [<a href="mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org%3e" target="_blank">mailto:foss4g2013-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a>] On Behalf Of Volker<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Mische [<a href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com" target="_blank">volker.mische@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com%3e" target="_blank">mailto:volker.mische@gmail.com></a>]<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 1:04 AM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> To: Bart van den Eijnden<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Cc: <a href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mailto:foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>>; <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org%3e" target="_blank">mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org></a>>; Barry Rowlingson<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Subject: Re: [Foss4g2013] presentation selection<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Bart,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> I second the approach that was used by the LOC. It's similar to<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> what was<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> done in 2009 (when I was part of it).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Barry described how they made the selection in detail. It is<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> important<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> that the way the decision was made is transparent, not the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">decisions<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> themselves (it would take way to much to give a reason for <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">every<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">not<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> accepted abstract).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> The LOC should make the final call and normally it's pretty <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">close<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">to<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> what the community voted for (at least that was the case in 2009).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Volker<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> On 05/22/2013 04:58 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> Barry,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> does this mean you don't have enough trust in the community<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> voting that<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> they will filter out anything inappropriate?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> I see this as an unnecessary and confusing step.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> Bart<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> --<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> Bart van den Eijnden<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> OSGIS - <a href="http://osgis.nl" target="_blank">http://osgis.nl</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> On May 22, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Barry Rowlingson<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> <<a href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk" target="_blank">b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk" target="_blank">mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk%3e%3e" target="_blank">mailto:b.rowlingson@lancaster.ac.uk>></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Bart van den Eijnden<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> <<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl" target="_blank">bartvde@osgis.nl</a> <<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl" target="_blank">mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl" target="_blank">mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl</a> <<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl%3e%3e" target="_blank">mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl>></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> But apparently the selection committee filtered out abstracts<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> based<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> on the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> words open and or free, which seems a weird and error-prone<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> approach<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> to me.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> We did *not* purely filter out based on words.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> We looked at the title, short abstract, and long abstract. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">If<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">from<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> those items we could not see a free/open-source, open-data, or<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> geospatial angle, we *thought carefully* about whether that<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> should be<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> included in the conference.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> My second talk was about GeoExt and since I thought since<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> everybody knows<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> GeoExt is about open source, I did not mention those words<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> explicitly<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> in my<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> abstract.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> Yes, we have enough expertise on the panel to know our open<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">source<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> packages. Anything we didn't know, we looked up. However we<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> can't look<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> up something omitted from an abstract...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> Someone had a great abstract on big data, but it wasn't<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">selected<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> because it can be used with both open source software and<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> closed source<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> software, and it's not about open data specifically.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> An abstract that doesn't mention any open geospatial technology<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> could<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> well be about doing analysis in ArcGIS or Oracle Spatial. Its<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> not the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> committee's job to second-guess the presenter or ask the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> presenter for<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> clarification - the abstract is space enough to provide <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">clarity<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">and<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> full details.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> My personal opinion is<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> that if the general public wants to see this talk, it should<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">not<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> matter if<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> the abstract contains the words free or open.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> Again, we did not filter on the words. We took the totality <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">of<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> submission and checked appropriateness for the Free and Open<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Source<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> for Geospatial Conference, amongst the other criteria.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> Also, if this is filtering would be done, it should be done<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> *prior*<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> to the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> community voting phase IMHO.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> Personal opinion: there's no point - the outcome will be the<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> same, it<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> will just require a committee to review everything before <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">and<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">after<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> the community voting. There were very few inappropriate<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> submissions.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>>> Can the selection committee elaborate on the approach they<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></blockquote></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">used?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm">
<blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> I think we've discussed this at great lengths on this and other<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> mailing lists. Basically: First pass: include community vote<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> top 100.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> Second pass: include committee vote top 100 (giving us ~130<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> included).<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> Discuss, eliminate anything inappropriate. Next pass: <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">include<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">lower<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #b5c4df 4.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> ranked community votes. Next: lower ranked committee votes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Check for<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> multiple submissions, similarities with workshop sessions, and<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> make a<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> decision on near-duplicates (which may include rejections,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> choices, or<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> mergers). Keep going until coffee runs out or all slots filled.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> We did<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> not run out of coffee.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> I think fuller details will be posted to the lessons<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> learned/cookbook<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> wiki pages.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>>> Barry<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> _______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> Foss4g2013 mailing list<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> <a href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a> <<a href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >>> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> _______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> Foss4g2013 mailing list<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> <a href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a> <<a href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> >> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> _______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Foss4g2013 mailing list<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a> <<a href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">*Massimiliano Cannata*<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Responsabile settore Geomatica<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Istituto scienze della Terra<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14____<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09____<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a> <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">_<a href="http://www.supsi.ch/ist" target="_blank">www.supsi.ch/ist</a> <<a href="http://www.supsi.ch/ist%3e_" target="_blank">http://www.supsi.ch/ist>_</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">_______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Conference_dev mailing list<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________ Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze 8364 <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(20130523) __________<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.eset.cz" target="_blank">http://www.eset.cz</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________ Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze 8364 <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">(20130523) __________<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.eset.cz" target="_blank">http://www.eset.cz</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________ Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze 8364 (20130523)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.eset.cz" target="_blank">http://www.eset.cz</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________ Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze 8364 (20130523)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">__________<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.eset.cz" target="_blank">http://www.eset.cz</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">_______________________________________________<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Foss4g2013 mailing list<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Foss4g2013@lists.osgeo.org</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foss4g2013</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><br>
<br>__________ Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze 8365 (20130523) __________</span></p><div class="im"><br><br>Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<br><br><a href="http://www.eset.cz" target="_blank">http://www.eset.cz</a><u></u><u></u></div>
<p></p></div> <br><br>__________ Informace od ESET Smart Security, verze databaze 8365 (20130523) __________<div class="im"><br><br>Tuto zpravu proveril ESET Smart Security.<br><br><a href="http://www.eset.cz" target="_blank">http://www.eset.cz</a><br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">Massimiliano Cannata</b><br><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:gray;font-size:9pt">Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica</span></p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:gray;font-size:9pt">Responsabile settore Geomatica</span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:gray;font-size:9pt"><br></span></p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:gray;font-size:9pt">Istituto scienze della Terra</span></p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"></p><p style="margin:0px">
<span lang="IT" style="font-size:9pt;color:gray">Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design</span></p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial;font-size:small;margin:0px"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:12px"><font color="#808080" face="arial, sans-serif">Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana</font></span></p>
<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial;font-size:small;margin:0px"><span style="color:gray;font-size:9pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Campus Trevano, </span><span style="color:gray;font-size:9pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif">CH - 6952 Canobbio</span></p>
<p></p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span lang="IT" style="font-size:9pt;color:gray">Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9pt"><a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a></span></p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
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