<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">It all sounds good and count me as a huge +1 for the PCO.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">
The bottom line is deadlines are harder to meet/enforce on a volunteer basis, and by definition accountability is elusive. At the same time, volunteers are a really crucial part of the mix, and supporting these conferences is an important way of "giving back" to the OSS communities.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">MT</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM, David Percy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:percyd@pdx.edu" target="_blank">percyd@pdx.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Michael, great to have you on board!<br>
<br>
We are planning on hiring a PCO that I worked with last year on a<br>
conference of similar size. We will probably hire some student that<br>
will under his supervision to handle details. We just met with him on<br>
Monday...<br>
<br>
Someone suggested that paying the program committee chair would be a<br>
good idea, since that is a massive amount of work, and needs to be<br>
done by someone who understands the subject matter, as opposed to our<br>
PCO.<br>
<br>
We will definitely benefit from your experience, thanks again,<br>
Percy<br>
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Michael Terner <<a href="mailto:mgt@appgeo.com">mgt@appgeo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I'm new to this list and look forward to tracking developments and hopefully<br>
> participating...<br>
><br>
> A little background, I've been a member of the "program committee" for the<br>
> last two FOSS4GNA conferences and have seen the planning up close and<br>
> personal. I can echo what Darrell reports Steve said about Nottingham's<br>
> efforts. For the Minneapolis FOSS4GNA show we generated very strong<br>
> sponsorships without outside help. That said, effort does help. We got a<br>
> good decent response to our first call, but when we hunkered down and made<br>
> more targeted an focused efforts for second and third approaches, we were<br>
> able to double the sponsorships and our platinum sponsor was one of the last<br>
> onboard (see: <a href="http://foss4g-na.org/sponsor/" target="_blank">http://foss4g-na.org/sponsor/</a> for our results).<br>
><br>
> I would urge you to think seriously and early about the overall role of<br>
> "outside help" which I think could be very important. FOSS4GNA was done<br>
> entirely with volunteers, and in spite of the conference's success (i.e.,<br>
> great program and attendance; and finishing "in the black" financially),<br>
> there were some significant challenges with that approach, and we were late<br>
> on several things like the call for sponsorship and call for papers. If<br>
> given a mulligan, the MSP team might make a different decision.<br>
><br>
> This is a big show and a lot of work. That doesn't just mean it's hard to<br>
> manage on a volunteer only basis, it means it generates real revenue that<br>
> can help pay for professional support. And, conference planning experience<br>
> matters whether it's "cracking the whip" on timelines, generating<br>
> sponsorship or negotiating with hotels and the like. You might strongly<br>
> consider looking at a fuller "outside support" arrangement (i.e., there are<br>
> professional conference planners) before quickly entering into a<br>
> "commission" arrangement for sponsorship alone. Commissions are "safe" but<br>
> you might find the commission costs you more than it would've to simply have<br>
> a professional do the second and third outreach passes on an hourly basis<br>
> (or as part of their "package" of support), after you see how many of "last<br>
> years sponsors" simply re-up on the first notice (which my company will do).<br>
> I'm a billable hours consulting guy so I can't help but observe that in the<br>
> scenario above of paying a 10% commission on $200k of sponsorships you'd end<br>
> up paying a $20k fee. That $20k could support 200 hours of someone working<br>
> for $100/hr. Is that (i.e., ~5 person-weeks) what you think it'd<br>
> realistically take to generate those sponsorships? I don't think the<br>
> FOSS4GNA volunteers (yes, I made my share of sponsor calls) put in anywhere<br>
> near the cumulative level of effort.<br>
><br>
> Congrats on hauling this in to PDX...I'm looking forward to attendance in<br>
> your great city already...<br>
><br>
> MT<br>
> --<br>
> Michael Terner<br>
> Executive Vice President<br>
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><br>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Darrell Fuhriman <<a href="mailto:darrell@garnix.org">darrell@garnix.org</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Steven from nottingham indicated that they were able to get most sponsors<br>
>> on board without too much effort.<br>
>><br>
>> That makes me wonder if we shouldn't hold off on paying someone<br>
>> until/unless we decide we've picked up the low-hanging fruit and want to<br>
>> keep it going.<br>
>><br>
>> d.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Aug 22, 2013, at 20:28, "Revello, Neil (BES)"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:Neil.Revello@portlandoregon.gov">Neil.Revello@portlandoregon.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Subject: [foss4g2014] Sponsorships<br>
>> ><br>
>> > What did we put into the budget for sponsorship coordination?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Because we want to get sponsors committed early, I think we might want<br>
>> > to consider a (sliding) commission scale vs. time. Then a performance<br>
>> > payment based on total sponsorship review.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Neil Revello GISP<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:neil.revello@portlandoregon.gov">neil.revello@portlandoregon.gov</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > -----Original Message-----<br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:foss4g2014-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2014-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:foss4g2014-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">foss4g2014-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] On Behalf Of David Percy<br>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:03 PM<br>
>> > To: foss4g2014<br>
>> > Subject: Re: [foss4g2014] Sponsorships<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Deb would be an awesome addition to the team. She has charisma,<br>
>> > connections, and energy that are invaluable. We have discussed a 10% cut on<br>
>> > the sponsorships. This would mean, for example, $20,000 on a sponsorship of<br>
>> > $200K, which is likely. I think we should offer a minimum of something like<br>
>> > $5K...<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:59 AM, David Percy <<a href="mailto:percy@pdx.edu">percy@pdx.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> Deb would be an awesome addition to the team. She has charisma,<br>
>> >> connections, and energy that are invaluable. We have discussed a 10%<br>
>> >> cut on the sponsorships. This would mean, for example, $20,000 on a<br>
>> >> sponsorship of $200K, which is likely. I think we should offer a<br>
>> >> minimum of something like $5K...<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Wm Leler <<a href="mailto:wmleler@gmail.com">wmleler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >>> I contacted Deb Bryant and it sounds like she would be interested in<br>
>> >>> doing this job. Here is my email to her and her response. How do we get<br>
>> >>> her answers to her questions? I think she would make a good addition to the<br>
>> >>> team putting on this conference.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>>> Portland was recently picked as the location for FOSS4G in September<br>
>> >>>> 2014! We met last monday to celebrate and to figure out what we need to do<br>
>> >>>> ASAP. One of the big items on the list was to get sponsors. We totally<br>
>> >>>> need someone to take charge of this. We even discussed paying someone to<br>
>> >>>> help do it (e.g., pay them a portion of what they are able to raise). I<br>
>> >>>> mentioned your name and everyone thought you would do an awesome job of it.<br>
>> >>>> Are you interested? We can get the sponsor lists from both this year's<br>
>> >>>> conference (in Nottingham) and from the last time it was held in the US,<br>
>> >>>> plus give you contacts in other organizations, etc.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Congrats!<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Am interested, could be a fun project to take on. What I need to know<br>
>> >>> to decide for sure (because sponsorship raising would be something I'd want<br>
>> >>> to do for a fee) is:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> attendance numbers for Nottingham<br>
>> >>> sponsorship list from there you mentioned including how much what<br>
>> >>> consideration was given sponsors (big high five, signs, free concert<br>
>> >>> tickets, speaking slots??) who is your fiscal agent?<br>
>> >>> what is your target budget?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Strong maybe! let me know the rest and let's talk.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Deb<br>
>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>
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>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> --<br>
>> >> David Percy ("Percy")<br>
>> >> -Geospatial Data Manager<br>
>> >> -Web Map Wrangler<br>
>> >> -GIS Instructor<br>
>> >> Portland State University<br>
>> >> -<a href="http://gisgeek.pdx.edu" target="_blank">gisgeek.pdx.edu</a><br>
>> >> -<a href="http://geology.pdx.edu" target="_blank">geology.pdx.edu</a><br>
>> >> -<a href="http://portlandpulse.org" target="_blank">portlandpulse.org</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > --<br>
>> > David Percy ("Percy")<br>
>> > -Geospatial Data Manager<br>
>> > -Web Map Wrangler<br>
>> > -GIS Instructor<br>
>> > Portland State University<br>
>> > -<a href="http://gisgeek.pdx.edu" target="_blank">gisgeek.pdx.edu</a><br>
>> > -<a href="http://geology.pdx.edu" target="_blank">geology.pdx.edu</a><br>
>> > -<a href="http://portlandpulse.org" target="_blank">portlandpulse.org</a><br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
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Portland State University<br>
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