<p dir="ltr">Hi Till,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks a lot for your effort. I'm in touch with my colleagues from the University of Cologne. They can also help us as they closely cooperate with German teachers and pre-service teachers. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Viele Grüße, <br>
Ela </p>
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<br><br>---- Użytkownik till.adams@fossgis.de napisał ----<br><br>Hi Ela,<br><br>thanks for the progress! I am in contact to several school teachers <br>around Bonn, so I just may ask them, how advanced training for teachers <br>in general work and where their channels of distribution are.<br><br>So far , Till<br><br><br>Am <a href="tel:2015-10-29 12">2015-10-29 12</a>:41, schrieb Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska:<br>> Hi all,<br>><br>> Thanks a lot for joining a discussion, providing feedback and<br>> comments, asking additional questions. I set up the wikipage to <br>> gather<br>> all information concerning education at FOSS4G <a href="tel:2016">2016</a><br>> (<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_Education">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_Education</a> [19]).<br>><br>> Summing up...<br>> Conference - we agree on having education included into general<br>> track. Great! Work in progress... :-)<br>> Workshop - we have quite a lot of people open for the idea of<br>> educational workshop at FOSS4G <a href="tel:2016">2016</a>. However, there are some <br>> important<br>> issues which need to be discussed.<br>><br>> First of all (Nikos is <a href="tel:100">100</a>% right) - was is/are our target group(s)?<br>> Looking at the different background of ICA-OsGeo Labs we have at<br>> least 5 different groups:<br>> 1) academics working with students over 19 at the universities,<br>> 2) school teachers, working with children aged <a href="tel:6-12">6-12</a>/14 (primary<br>> education) - in different countries we have different educational<br>> system so also different age groups<br>> 3) school teachers, working with young people aged 12/<a href="tel:14-19">14-19</a><br>> (secondary education) - in different countries we have different<br>> educational system so also different age groups<br>> 4) teacher trainers, so educators responsible for improving<br>> pre-service and/or in-service school teachers skills and knowledge,<br>> 5) GI educators responsible for improving GIS skills and knowledge <br>> of<br>> very different groups of users (specialists, scientists, public<br>> administration staff, etc.)<br>><br>> Well... We can of course make not 1 workshop but 2 or more (if room<br>> is still available) but what's crucial - how to get participants for<br>> the training? Moreover, how to get participants for only one-day<br>> training?<br>><br>> In my opinion, we would have no problems to get people from group no<br>> 1. and no. 5 - they will be in Bonn :-)<br>> But, as far as group no. 2, 3 and 4 are concerned, it will be much<br>> harder. School teachers can be financially supported by their<br>> schools but for 1-day training that can be not so easy.<br>> If we want this group to come - how can we support them? First of<br>> all, get money to cover their travel expenses. That's the most<br>> important. I know quite a lot of teachers from Belgium for example <br>> who<br>> would be interested to come, if they get this kind of support. Any<br>> ideas on how to do it (except for Till's proposal to ask OsGeo for<br>> help)?<br>><br>> So dear ICA-OsGeo Lab members, to make a general discussion more<br>> concrete - please declare your IDEAS ON SPECIFIC TRAINING that YOU<br>> would like to lead on FOSS4G <a href="tel:2016">2016</a> using above mentioned Wikipage. <br>> That<br>> would help a lot!<br>><br>> Regards,<br>> Ela<br>><br>> W dniu <a href="tel:2015-10-26">2015-10-26</a> o 13:15, Charlie Schweik pisze:<br>><br>>> Sorry - my bad, Nikos. I am considering all levels but brought in<br>>> the university here.<br>>> I think we should have both areas!<br>>> Charlie<br>>><br>>> On Mon, Oct 26, <a href="tel:2015">2015</a> at 6:36 AM, <<a href="mailto:labrinos@eled.auth.gr">labrinos@eled.auth.gr</a> [17]> wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Dear all,<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> To be honest, I am getting confused. One time you are talking<br>>>> about university education and the nest time about schools.<br>>>><br>>>> Maybe we should decide or group our desires.<br>>>><br>>>> Some should think about the tertiary education, some about<br>>>> secondary and others (like me) about primary. Should we allocate<br>>>> different people, as contact persons, to lead the discussion for<br>>>> each level of education?<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> regards<br>>>><br>>>> Nikos<br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Νίκος Λαμπρινός<br>>>><br>>>> Αναπληρωτής Καθηγητής<br>>>><br>>>> Π.Τ.Δ.Ε. Α.Π.Θ.<br>>>><br>>>> Θεσσαλονίκη <a href="tel:541 24">541 24</a><br>>>><br>>>> Τηλ. <a href="tel:2310 991201">2310 991201</a>, <a href="tel:991230">991230</a><br>>>><br>>>> Email: <a href="mailto:labrinos@eled.auth.gr">labrinos@eled.auth.gr</a> [1]<br>>>><br>>>> Ιστοσελίδες:<br>>>> <a href="http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography">http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography</a>/ [2]<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>> <a href="http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr">http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr</a> [3]<br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>> <br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Dr. Nikos Lambrinos<br>>>><br>>>> Associate Professor<br>>>><br>>>> Dept. of Primary Education<br>>>><br>>>> Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Thessaloniki<br>>>><br>>>> Greece, GR-<a href="tel:54124">54124</a><br>>>><br>>>> Tel. <a href="tel:+30 2310 991201">+30 2310 991201</a><br>>>><br>>>> Email: <a href="mailto:labrinos@eled.auth.gr">labrinos@eled.auth.gr</a> [4]<br>>>><br>>>> Web pages: <a href="http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography">http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography</a>/ [5]<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>> <a href="http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr">http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr</a>/ [6]<br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> FROM: ica-osgeo-labs<br>>>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> [7]] ON BEHALF OF<br>>>> Antoni Perez Navarro<br>>>> SENT: Monday, October 26, <a href="tel:2015 11">2015 11</a>:44 AM<br>>>> TO: <a href="mailto:ela@gridw.pl">ela@gridw.pl</a> [8]; <a href="mailto:cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu">cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu</a> [9]<br>>>> CC: <a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a> [10]<br>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Education at FOSS4G <a href="tel:2016">2016</a><br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> Hi Ela,<br>>>><br>>>> I find the ideas absolutely wonderful. <br>>>> Regarding workshop for teachers, in Como we talked also about to<br>>>> look for funding in order to open it to people around Europe, and<br>>>> not only germany. But we all agreed that it would be difficult in<br>>>> schools.<br>>>><br>>>> On the other hand, in Spain we are having some debate around how<br>>>> difficult is to find students in GIS, although geographic<br>>>> information seams key. If it is a generic problem, maybe it would<br>>>> be interesting to prepare a round table to talk about the item.<br>>>> Some of us think that the term GIS is not a fashion term and<br>>>> maybe we should have to "fashionate" it. I don't know. <br>>>><br>>>> Best regards,<br>>>><br>>>> Toni<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>> ANTONI PÉREZ NAVARRO <br>>>> Estudis d'Informàtica, Multimèdia i Telecomunicació <br>>>> UNIVERSITAT OBERTA DE CATALUNYA <br>>>> <br>>>> <a href="mailto:aperezn@uoc.edu">aperezn@uoc.edu</a> [11] <br>>>> 22@ (Rambla Poblenou, <a href="tel:156">156</a> / <a href="tel:08018">08018</a> Barcelona) <br>>>> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonipereznavarro">https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonipereznavarro</a> [12]<br>>>> @tonipereznavarr<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> <br>>>> Aquest missatge s'adreça exclusivament a qui va destinat i pot<br>>>> contenir informació privilegiada o confidencial i dades de<br>>>> caràcter personal, la difusió de les quals és regulada per la<br>>>> Llei orgànica de protecció de dades i la Llei de serveis de la<br>>>> societat de la informació. Si no sou la persona destinatària<br>>>> indicada (o la responsable de lliurar-lo a qui va destinat), no<br>>>> heu de copiar aquest missatge ni lliurar-lo a tercers per cap<br>>>> concepte. Si heu rebut aquest missatge per error o l'heu<br>>>> aconseguit per altres mitjans, us demanem que ens ho comuniqueu<br>>>> immediatament per aquesta mateixa via i l'elimineu<br>>>> irreversiblement. <br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> Abans d'imprimir aquest missatge electrònic penseu en el medi<br>>>> ambient.<br>>>><br>>>> --- Missatge original de Charles Schweik<br>>>> <<a href="mailto:cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu">cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu</a> [13]> per a "El¿bieta<br>>>> Wo¿oszy¿ska-Wi¿niewska" <<a href="mailto:ela@gridw.pl">ela@gridw.pl</a> [14]> amb còpia a<br>>>> ica-osgeo-labs <<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a> [15]> enviat el<br>>>> <a href="tel:25.10.2015 13">25.10.2015 13</a>:33<br>>>><br>>>> Hi Ela,<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> See my thoughts below in-line:<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> On Sat, Oct 24, <a href="tel:2015">2015</a> at 4:32 PM, El?bieta Wo?oszy?ska-Wi?niewska<br>>>> <<a href="mailto:ela@gridw.pl">ela@gridw.pl</a> [16]> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> There are two main options:<br>>>><br>>>> No. 1 ? CONFERENCE itself (<a href="tel:24-26">24-26</a>th of August)<br>>>><br>>>> Education will be mentioned as one of the special topics in the<br>>>> General track. So during the general program selection a special<br>>>> focus will be put on education-related presentations. The idea was<br>>>> not to make these presentations too much research-oriented (as in<br>>>> acadeic track) but really practical.<br>>>> As Volker (chair of program committee) mentioned:"My plan is to<br>>>> give the slots (3 talks in a row) some kind of topic. Those would<br>>>> be then be ?education?.<br>>>> I really like this idea ? it would help to make this topic more<br>>>> visible and help people who are interested to find proper time and<br>>>> room ;-)<br>>>><br>>>> I think this is a good idea. <br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> In Como, you'll recall there was a paper by the NCSU team about<br>>>> their educational material and how they made datasets generic, or<br>>>> perhaps people could consider presenting issues such as how they<br>>>> are teaching various topics like geocrowdsourcing, Volunteer<br>>>> geographic information, geo-sensor webs, geo-temporal<br>>>> visualization, modeling, or some other area. Maybe there could be<br>>>> a call for papers?<br>>>><br>>>>> No. 2 ? PRE-CONFERENCE, EDUCATION WORKSHOP (23rd of August )<br>>>>><br>>>>> We have a chance to organise pre-conference workshop! <br>>>><br>>>>> In Como we talked about two options: a) having workshop for<br>>>>> German school teachers on use of FOSS4G (e.g. QGIS) in<br>>>>> education, b) having workshop for teacher trainers to show them<br>>>>> how they can motivate and attract teachers to open GIS. <br>>>><br>>>> I think these are both good ideas too. <br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> One update on my end. The GeoForAll urban thematic has a grant<br>>>> proposal under review right now. Like all grant proposals -- It's<br>>>> a long shot -- but if funded it would provide funding to support a<br>>>> US GeoForAll scholar to go to Bonn to offer a training workshop at<br>>>> FOSS4G <a href="tel:2016">2016</a>. The topic would be either a 'Research Methods'<br>>>> workshop or a 'Train the Trainer' workshop - probably targeting<br>>>> university researchers and educators. I don't know when we will<br>>>> hear about the funding, but my guess is that it will be in early<br>>>> <a href="tel:2016">2016</a>, and if it comes in, we'll have a call for workshop topics.<br>>>> So I'll let you know if it comes in.<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> I encourage others in our community to go after funds like this<br>>>> that would help fund/support these kinds of educational or<br>>>> research workshops to happen in future FOSS4G global or regional<br>>>> events!<br>>>><br>>>> <br>>>><br>>>> Cheers,<br>>>><br>>>> Charlie<br>>><br>>> --<br>>><br>>> --------------------------------------------<br>>> Q: Why do I try to keep my emails to five sentences or less?<br>>> A: <a href="http://five.sentenc.es">http://five.sentenc.es</a> [18]<br>><br>><br>><br>> Links:<br>> ------<br>> [1] mailto:<a href="mailto:labrinos@eled.auth.gr">labrinos@eled.auth.gr</a><br>> [2] <a href="http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography">http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography</a>/<br>> [3] <a href="http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr">http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr</a><br>> [4] mailto:<a href="mailto:labrinos@eled.auth.gr">labrinos@eled.auth.gr</a><br>> [5] <a href="http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography">http://labrinos.webpages.auth.gr/digital_geography</a>/<br>> [6] <a href="http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr">http://www.digital-earth.edu.gr</a>/<br>> [7] mailto:<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> [8] mailto:<a href="mailto:ela@gridw.pl">ela@gridw.pl</a><br>> [9] mailto:<a href="mailto:cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu">cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu</a><br>> [10] mailto:<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> [11] mailto:<a href="mailto:aperezn@uoc.edu">aperezn@uoc.edu</a><br>> [12] <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonipereznavarro">https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonipereznavarro</a><br>> [13] mailto:<a href="mailto:cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu">cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu</a><br>> [14] mailto:<a href="mailto:ela@gridw.pl">ela@gridw.pl</a><br>> [15] mailto:<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>> [16] mailto:<a href="mailto:ela@gridw.pl">ela@gridw.pl</a><br>> [17] mailto:<a href="mailto:labrinos@eled.auth.gr">labrinos@eled.auth.gr</a><br>> [18] <a href="http://five.sentenc.es">http://five.sentenc.es</a><br>> [19] <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_Education">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_Education</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>ica-osgeo-labs mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ica-osgeo-labs">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ica-osgeo-labs</a>