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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">What is this software that produces this sidecar CSV-like format ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It is a traffic demand and simulation software called PTV-VISUM
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(http://vision-traffic.ptvgroup.com/en-uk/products/ptv-visum/)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">> Could you show examples of such datasets ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty;-qt-block-indent:0"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="http://download.ivv-aachen.de/webdaten/ptv-visum-shape.zip">http://download.ivv-aachen.de/webdaten/ptv-visum-shape.zip</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The supplementary file is „ptv-visum-shape.CTF“.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Even Rouault [mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com]
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 7. März 2017 10:35<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Felix Obermaier <obe@IVV-AACHEN.DE>; Peter Halls <p.halls@york.ac.uk><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [gdal-dev] Overcome attribute name limitation in shapefiles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">On mardi 7 mars 2017 09:17:50 CET Felix Obermaier wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> why would it cease to respect the dBaseIV Standard? I’m not proposing a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> change regarding the dBase format but an additional file that gives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> additional information the data in the attribute column. If you don’t<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> supply that file you don’t have the additinal information, but you still<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> can access the data and have to figure out by yourself what it is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> I know that there are other data sources that are not limited in the size<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> for column names that I can use. But often I’m asked „Can you provide me a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> Shapefile“ and then I’m sometimes stuck with column names that are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> abbreviated to undistinctness.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">Or I get a shapefile of that kind, which<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> does not make it any better.
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> Felix<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> Von: Peter Halls [<a href="mailto:p.halls@york.ac.uk">mailto:p.halls@york.ac.uk</a>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> Gesendet: Montag, 6. März 2017 14:56<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> An: Felix Obermaier <<a href="mailto:obe@IVV-AACHEN.DE">obe@IVV-AACHEN.DE</a>>; gdal dev<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> <<a href="mailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org">gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">Betreff: Re: [gdal-dev] Overcome attribute name<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> limitation in shapefiles
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> Felix,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> following your proposal would make Shapefiles cease to respect the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> dBaseIV Standard and potentially seriously affect their interchangability.
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> There are a range of alternative formats supported by GDAL that achieve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> your goal: for example, I use SQL as my base format and only convert when<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> necessary. SQL is generally accepted by other packages and is far more<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> flexible than dBaseIV.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> On 6 March 2017 at 13:26, Felix Obermaier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> <<a href="mailto:obe@ivv-aachen.de%3cmailto:obe@ivv-aachen.de">obe@ivv-aachen.de<mailto:obe@ivv-aachen.de</a>>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> is it somehow possible to overcome the attribute name length limitiation of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> DBase files using GDAL? If so, how?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> If not, why not add (another) file the shapefile dataset of shapes (shp,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> shx), projection (prj), data (dbf) and encoding(cpg), one that is (re-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> defining the column names, allowing for<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> * mixed casing,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> * non-ASCII characters,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> * more than 10/11 characters<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> I’m aware of a software product that does it this way. The file that renames<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> the columns is set up like a CSV file defining two columns, „Name“ and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> „Alias“. „Name“ is the actual name of the column, „Alias“ the name in the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> dbase file header.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">What is this software that produces this sidecar CSV-like format ? Could you show examples of such datasets ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;-qt-block-indent:0;-qt-user-state:0"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Sans Serif",serif">> Felix Obermaier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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