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Especially as I haven't seen a descriptive document for them yet.<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Brad Hards <bradh@frogmouth.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 2, 2020 12:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Edson, Adam Robert <are131@psu.edu>; gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org <gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [gdal-dev] Accessing DES in NITF through GDAL</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">I think there could be value in adding CSSHPB with new code inside GDAL NITF. See
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https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/master/gdal/frmts/nitf/nitfdes.c#L209</a></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Do GLAS/GFM later.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="">Brad</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> gdal-dev <gdal-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edson, Adam Robert<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 3 April 2020 2:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Even Rouault <even.rouault@spatialys.com>; gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gdal-dev] Accessing DES in NITF through GDAL</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">I have been tasked with making GDAL capable of dealing with a new NITF type (<a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalval.cr.usgs.gov%2Fapps%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fjacie%2FBarbaraEckstein.pdf&data=02%7C01%7Care131%40psu.edu%7Cdb0f54a867014bd9d01c08d7d71f0225%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C1%7C637214400509907083&sdata=FsHOy6MExgDO2PwRfumpRdCNiPUEnf1GWLL5Nk%2FB6Zo%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://calval.cr.usgs.gov/apps/sites/default/files/jacie/BarbaraEckstein.pdf" shash="d20wS5fsk+3HTAJmFw3+8TcSrUsZbpkMO6UJ7Dp6+T8wjg+r21nxHBalUc2qEmzokpPvLfZp/CCVShrJRouIhloUNVwXaig1t26KlMbGKxNx1XeQ6Hyu02KTUiWd/pfgPQDShw4zsS3wQhw2GXLRANHRkcv8Rcw8FaaWMs7mVTg=">https://calval.cr.usgs.gov/apps/sites/default/files/jacie/BarbaraEckstein.pdf</a>)
 that has major buy-in from data providers. Due to the ubiquity of GDAL, making the change at this level will give the most people access.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Even Rouault <<a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org">gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a> <<a href="mailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org">gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Edson, Adam Robert <<a href="mailto:are131@psu.edu">are131@psu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gdal-dev] Accessing DES in NITF through GDAL</span> </p>
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<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">Adam,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">> I am working with NITF data. How are Data Extension Segments (DES) accessed</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">> through GDAL?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">Complicated topic.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">TRE stored in DES are reported in the TRE and xml:TRE metadata domains.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New""> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">For generic DES extraction, you need to build GDAL with the ESRI_BUILD macro enabled, and then they should be reported as Base64 encoded content in the NITF_DES metadata domain, but I haven't tried
 such builds recently.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Courier New"">Even</span></p>
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