<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 18, 2022, at 9:28 AM, Kemeter, Mathias via gdal-dev <<a href="mailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org" class="">gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Hi Even,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">thanks for the feedback.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Let me briefly elaborate on the distinction between corporate and non-corporate contributors (…which I did not intend in the first place):<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">As an individual, I can very well live with the general message and ‘sign’ the policy based on trust. As written before, I do understand this message and fully agree to it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">However, as an employee in a corporate environment, I will have to justify and quantify investments. No one likes that – but that’s just how it is.</span></li></ul></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>As an open source community, we must also justify and quantify our time investments. A GDAL driver based on a binary SDK that is contributed by the company whose SDK it supports is a white elephant for the project. Fixing issues with it is often not simply a matter of putting in time and attention. GDAL's distribution mechanism provides a lot of value – the binary SDK proprietor is using GDAL to give the benefits of GDAL to its userbase. This RFC is about giving the PSC some tools to react when that cost/benefit as measured by the project is out of balance. </div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;" class=""><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" class="">Accepting a policy means signing a contract. And if formulations leave room for interpretation, it gets harder to sign (or fulfill) this contract. As an individual I wouldn’t care too much. However, in a company with legal departments these thing are handled more strict.</span></li></ul></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>There's no crying in baseball and there's no contracts in open source. It is run by social mores, social capital, and expertise/time gifting. Showing up cold to drop +15k lines onto a project in one which you have no social capital is rightly met with skepticism. It's the easiest thing for that project to just say no. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>This RFC is to flip the default policy to 'yes', but to provide some guidelines when the contribution has gone stale to the point that it is imposing time/money/maintenance/attention/usability cost on the project.</div></div><br class=""><div class="">Howard</div></body></html>