<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div><a href="https://xkcd.com/927/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://xkcd.com/927/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>My brief journey into CF Conventions led me to understand that CF Conventions are for a specific software community. It covers all of that communities use cases and can get complex in order to achieve that. The convention isn't really meant to cover all use cases for the broader geospatial community.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My hope is that any effort to standardize across the broader community will stay to some simple core features that cover the majority of use cases without trying to cover all of them.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">From the GDAL/PROJ perspective, a CRS WKT and a GeoTransform will cover most use cases. I would just want them to put that in standard locations in the file metadata where relevant.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://geozarr.org/">https://geozarr.org/</a> did a nice job of creating a simple convention that does just that. Simple for the broader geospatial community to use without becoming too complicated. That makes adoption much easier across the community.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Best,<br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Alan Snow</font><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 15, 2026, 1:07 PM Even Rouault via gdal-dev <<a href="mailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  

    
  
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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>if anyone has feedback about GDAL vs CF/netCDF/GRIB to provide to
      ECMWF</p>
    <p>Even</p>
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            <td>CF Convention workshop 2026 @ ECMWF</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap>Date : </th>
            <td>Tue, 14 Jul 2026 12:45:14 +0000</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT" nowrap>De : </th>
            <td>Sebastien Villaume <a href="mailto:sebastien.villaume@ecmwf.int" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><sebastien.villaume@ecmwf.int></a></td>
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            <td><a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">even.rouault@spatialys.com</a>
              <a href="mailto:even.rouault@spatialys.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><even.rouault@spatialys.com></a></td>
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            <td>Lorea Garcia San Martin
              <a href="mailto:lorea.garciasanmartin@ecmwf.int" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><lorea.garciasanmartin@ecmwf.int></a></td>
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      <p style="direction:ltr"><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none"><b>Dear
            Even Rouault,</b></span></p>
      <p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none">I
          am writing on behalf of the organising committee of the
          <a href="https://events.ecmwf.int/event/568/" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
            CF Conventions workshop 2026</a>, taking place on <b>21–24
            September 2026</b> at ECMWF in Bonn, Germany (hybrid,
          co-hosted with the Copernicus Climate Change Service).</span></p>
      <p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none">One
          of the topics that has generated considerable interest within
          the CF community is
          <b>format interoperability</b>, and in particular the role
          that conventions such as CF can play in facilitating
          interoperability across different data formats and software
          ecosystems. Given your long-standing involvement with GDAL and
          your perspective as Chair of the GDAL Project Steering
          Committee, we would be very interested in having you
          participate in the workshop and contribute to these
          discussions.</span></p>
      <p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none">We
          believe that the GDAL community has valuable experience and
          insights into the practical challenges of interoperability,
          including what works well today, where difficulties remain,
          and where conventions such as CF and formats such as netCDF
          and GRIB could evolve to better support users and software
          developers.</span></p>
      <p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none">Depending
          on the final programme and available time, there may also be
          an opportunity for you—or another GDAL contributor you would
          recommend—to give a presentation on these topics. </span><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">A</span><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none">t
          this stage we would be interested in having the GDAL
          perspective represented in the workshop discussions.</span></p>
      <p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none">There
          is no registration fee for the workshop, and
          <a href="https://events.ecmwf.int/event/568/registrations/440/" style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
            registration</a> is now open. Please note that we are
          unfortunately unable to cover speaker/attendee travel or
          accommodation costs.</span></p>
      <p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);text-transform:none">We
          would be delighted to hear whether you might be interested in
          participating, and we would be happy to provide further
          details about the workshop and programme.</span></p>
      <p><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>On
            behalf of the organising
          </b></span><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>committee</b></span><span style="font-family:Aptos,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><b>,</b></span></p>
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