Geodata and Telescience stuff

[Sampson, David]

Hey Folks,

It seems that I'm causing ripples again... It's great... I remember from
a previous meeting that no one even decided on a standard for
metadata...  For my applications I am hoping to produce all my metadata
through geoconnections
http://www.geoconnections.org/CGDI.cfm/fuseaction/aboutGcs.welcome/gcs.c
fm

1. My taxes paid for the metadata tool
2. many not for profits and comercial data providers in North America
and Abroad use it
3. it's a wheel that works fine
4. I don't need to develop a tool to manage
5. I can have matadata owners and maintainers under different accounts
6. I already have experience with it
7. It follows a pre defined standard (FGDC and ISO)
8. EASY EASY EASY

So... If I create my metadata through this, would that be sufficient for
metadata requirements for now until OSGEO decides on what they (WE, Us,
THEM) are doing for standards?

Frank and Markus, thanks for the initiative on both your parts... 

Hopefully we can move to the next step so I can continue work on my OSGE
related projects.

About the Blade

I tried accessing some of the programs... I can't seem to hit on GRASS
and OSSIM or OpenEV (FW Tools I assume)...

OGR/GDAL and Proj all work from the command line

Do I have to provide the prefix to the binaries... Where are they? I
looked in /usr/local/* as per wiki but couldn't find the binaries to
run. I thought I might be able to use Tab completion, but no luck there
either.

Also, I have used postgres on my own local machine as root. Is there
something I should know before playing with postgis/gres? Does my
account need to be given permission? Where is the data for the tables?
/var/?/?/

Cheers

P.S My account is dsampson

The prompt reads [dsampson at xblade13-2]

Uname -r = 2.6.17-1.2139_FC4



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Warmerdam [mailto:warmerdam at pobox.com] 
Sent: September 7, 2006 12:44
To: geodata at geodata.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeodata] Apache started

Markus Neteler wrote:
> On 9/7/06, Frank Warmerdam <warmerdam at pobox.com> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have taken the liberty of starting Apache on the geodata system.
It
>> seems to work ok, and documents go in /var/www/html.   I would add
that I
>> don't think it starts automatically on reboot.  So if there is a 
>> reboot we would likely have to run "apachectl start" as root.
> 
> ... or maybe use (not sure about right syntax):
> /sbin/chkconfig httpd on

Markus,

Ah, your system-admin-fu is clearly stronger than mine!  I have run this
command via sudo with no apparent signs of failure.

I'd add I didn't in the end get around to building mapserver 4.10 beta3
due to lack of time.

>> Dave should be able to setup some simple http data download under 
>> /var/www/html as soon as desired.
>>
>> Dave, what's your userid on the system?  I'll create a directory 
>> owned by you under /var/www/html you can play with.
>>
>> Or alternatively, are there objections from the geodata committee to 
>> me giving Dave sudo permissions on this blade?
> 
> Mhh, just to understand:
> By 'nhv' I was requested to not continue feeding the machine with 
> geodata or do data elaborations unless the metadata thing works. So I 
> stopped my VMAP0 elaborations there (which I wanted to distribute
there as well).
>
> Maybe we should first get clarity about the geodata.telascience.org 
> policy. At least, to me it's (no longer) clear :-)

I hadn't heard that, though I knew Norman had been advocating no geodata
distribution before metadata is available.  Has the geodata committee
taken that as a strong position then?

Jo, as Geodata chair is it your understanding that the committee decided
to not allow geodata processing on the system till all the metadata
requirements are clear?  I had previously understood this as a softer
thing where the committee was taking metadata seriously as something to
support before we get into serious data distribution.

I personally would advocate a fairly free-wheeling approach to getting
stuff going, with an understanding that associating appropriate metadata
is important before things "ramp up" to heavy duty distribution of many
datasets.
But it is really up to the committee as a whole to decide such things.

Best regards,
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