[Geodata] GeoData Alliance?

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Sun Aug 19 16:41:34 EDT 2007


Jo,
There has been some interesting work done in Australia in the licensing 
space done by the Queensland Spatial Information Council  (QSIC), along 
with Queensland Uni Law department.
I haven't got a very good link describing what they are doing.
 http://www.qsic.qld.gov.au/QSIC/QSIC.nsf/CPByUNID/6C31063F945CD93B4A257096000CBA1A

But in a nutshell:
* Queensland Government (an Australian State) are looking to standardise 
on their licences to ensure that data can easily be shared between 
agencies without license clashes.
* At the moment, the Government agencies often go externally to get data 
they already own because it is easier to get around license issues.
* 85% of government data can be stored under existing Creative Commons 
license.
* Remaining 15% requires a royalty. Currently, this data is sold under a 
variety of home-grown licenses which are based upon Contract Law and 
typically involves a click through acceptance. (Note that Creative 
Commons is based upon Copywrite Law).
* QSIC is proposing extensions to the set of Creative Commons license to 
create a licence which can be used to charge royalties.

I realise that a Royalty based license probably won't be used by OSGeo, 
however the project isof value to OSGeo in that it will facilitate 85% 
of Australian government data being put under existing CC licenses.

Jo Walsh wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 05:19:53PM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>   
>>>> Their current projects include GeoDRM (not likely something we are
>>>> interested in) 
>>>>         
>>> I agree that OSGeo is probably not interested in limiting access to 
>>> Data,  but GeoDRM has more uses that that.
>>> It is also used for things like User Authentication and Update Access. 
>>>       
>> Perhaps it would have been more accurate to say that I doubt DRM is
>> going to be of interest to the geodata working group 
>>     
>
> I like the term "rights assurance" at the moment. 
>
> Right, the GeoDRM WG members i have talked to, see this effort as, on
> the flip side, a "privacy protection" measure. Here this is again from
> the geoall FAQ: [[ protect the privacy and confidentiality of personal
> information and sensitive geographic information. ]]
>
> It seems to me that this is papering over the cracks of a problem that
> Arnulf identified a while ago, that Internet-based distribution is
> just unpalatable for a lot of organisations, while VPN and/or PKI
> "solutions" already exist for sharing of data between agencies, that
> could be extended to end-users on a regional or municipal basis.
> But because we have the Internet, SDI problems become Internet problems.
>
> To cut a rant short, it *does* make sense to me to listen carefully to
> what the "GeoDRM" scene are doing, to help ensure that Real Security
> Specialists run across their output and take time to critique it.
> The only person i vaguely know who has a firm foot in both these
> worlds is Jan-Oliver Wagner. Interestingly, he is talking recently 
> about a gonzo "OWS-Accounting" project - which would essentially
> enable either prepaid or postpaid *per-request billing for access to
> an OGC Web Service* - and this intrigues me ...
> http://www.intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2007-July/003246.html
>
> cheers,
>
>
> jo
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