[Geodata] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSGeo-Discuss] Promoting freely availablegeodata

80n 80n80n at gmail.com
Sat Mar 31 08:32:02 EDT 2007


It was not OS's assertion that *only* the stylistic bits were crown
copyright. The stylistic similarities were just used to prove that the map
was copied.

OS claim crown copyright of the whole not just the stylistic easter eggs.

80n

On 3/31/07, Barnett, Phillip < Phillip.Barnett at itn.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Actually according to the quotes from the time [1], it's not the case
> that the AA were caught copying Easter eggs, or fake features. The case
> rested on the stylistic similarities of the represented data, which, in
> my opinion, means that the copyright infringement was of the rendering,
> not of the data. If it turns out, as seems to be the case, that the data
> cannot be copyright, then that does fit with the Ordnance Survey vs The
> AA case.
>
> Phillip
>
>
> [1]"A team of Ordnance Survey experts identified unique "fingerprints"
> in these publications which proved that the AA was using its maps as a
> source.
> These included stylistic features and proportions - such as the width of
> roads in each drawing.
> Ordnance Survey's chief executive, Vanessa Lawrence, said: "There are
> design elements in the way we show things which are not obvious to
> either the user or the copier. When we see the two versions side by
> side, we can spot clues." .... She stressed that Ordnance Survey's
> "fingerprints" did not extend to putting misleading features in maps:
> "There are some publishers who put deliberate mistakes in their maps. We
> don't do that - it would mislead our customers. For us, it's more about
> the style we use." "
>
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,447171,00.html
>
>
> SteveC said:
> IANAL. We have case law here in the UK where big company a (the AA) was
> taken to court by b (the OS) because they copied their maps. The
> clincher was that they also copied fake streets, easter eggs, trap
> streets in the map. This gave away that they copied 'their' map. So does
>
> it fall down because these are not facts, they're creative secrets? If
> in your next conversation or otherwise you could ask about this it would
>
> be super helpful.
>
>
>
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