<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi all,<DIV>Time to step in I guess ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- CSW harvesting in GeoNetwork IS finished. It is based on version 2.0.1 of the CSW specification and is the OGC reference implementation for that spec. Upgrade to CSW 2.0.2 is planned/ underway.</DIV><DIV>- CSW server is also available</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- OAI-MPH has just been committed to SVN (both server and client (for harvesting))</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- OpenSearch with the GEO extension is also available from the SVN version. We had a discussion with Andrew Turner</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- GeoRSS search is also available as well as direct xml based services to search and present</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- Harmonization between DC, FGDC and ISO19115/19139 is also implemented in GeoNetwork and has been available for a long time (2 years if considering ISO19115:draft and in v2.1 including 19139 encoded metadata)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>A BIG problem for now considering the simple DC profile is that there is no place to put the service URL's for W*S etc.... I asked Jo and Stefan, browsed myself, but did not find it. Making sure such URL placeholder is in place is essential to make it worthwhile using the simple protocols. Anyone? If I know how, I can add it to the current DC formatted output and you all have your requested service output.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- We set up a 2.1.0 based version of GN yesterday on the telascience server. It could be scheduled to pick up properly formatted metadata XML documents from a folder on a (the same, another webdav) server. You can than use the GUI web editor in GeoNetwork or simply put XML records in a folder.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- A thing that would be a great to have, and I know there's many attempts already, is to have a Python script or so that asks the author to feed basic information (contact details, title, abstract, W*S server URLs) and uses GDAL/OGR to extract necessary data properties to put into a properly formatted metadata file. That file again can be automatically harvested if manually publishing is to involved.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- I think that in the latest gvSIG software one can now automatically generate basic metadata and edit it. From gvSIG this can be pushed into a GeoNetwork catalog directly.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- We will release a plugin to ArcGIS 9.2 soon that allows a user to publish metadata and data to GeoNetwork directly from ArcCatalog.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>- We'll also release a stand alone metadata editor that uses GDAL/OGR to fill out basic metadata</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I don't think we can make metadata life much easier than that ;-) If you want, come to the Third GeoNetwork workshop in November and you'll return home as a metadata/ catalog master ;-)</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ciao,</DIV><DIV>Jeroen</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 8, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Stefan Keller wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>Pls. look perhaps also at this thread from Raj about a - yet to be defined - CSW profile <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/dclite4g/2007-October/000006.html" target="_blank"> http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/dclite4g/2007-October/000006.html</A> .</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Take also into consideration that CSW harvesting in GeoNetwork (GN) is not finished yet and a main programmer of GN wrote by end of september that OAI-PMH "outperforms CSW harvesting on all aspects.". The "state of metadata" is currently less than desirable because even OGC seems to be divided into several groups besides CSW, namely ebRIM. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This having said, I'm not against any software - GN looks good! - nor any OGC spec. (CSW could make it but what's the advantage over a WFS profile?). </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm concerned mainly about a common metadata model and then about the protocol (harvesting vs. online-query?). So let's just do what serves our needs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-- Stefan</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">2007/10/8, Lorenzo Becchi <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:lorenzo@ominiverdi.com" target="_blank">lorenzo@ominiverdi.com</A>>:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><BR>> Martin Spott wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>> I know, this topic surfaces at least once a month - see Frank W.'s <BR>>> posting "Data migration" or David B.'s recent FOSS4G summary of open<BR>>> issues "Themes and Direction from FOSS4G".<BR>>><BR>><BR>> .... not to forget Lorenzo B.'s recent request of a "OSgeo Catalogue", <BR>><BR><BR>thx, Martin<BR><BR><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://data.freemap.in/" target="_blank">data.freemap.in</A> is a good place to store metadata easily.<BR><BR>anyway, I still think that a CSW interface is needed more then ever <BR>because it's OGC compliant. <BR>I still think we should try to use OGC standards and if they don't fit<BR>our needing, give a hand to make them better.<BR><BR>I hope to have the time to help Telascience guys to set up a demo with <BR>GeoNetwork.<BR>I would like to develop a thin CSW client for OpenLayers, it should not<BR>be that difficult.<BR>:-)<BR><BR>ciao<BR>Lorenzo<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Geodata mailing list <BR><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Geodata@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Geodata@lists.osgeo.org</A><BR><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geodata" target="_blank"> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geodata</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Geodata mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:Geodata@lists.osgeo.org">Geodata@lists.osgeo.org</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geodata">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geodata</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>