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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cameron,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And if media is ‘deathly’ quiet, we should be guided in how to write ‘letters to the editor’ for each publication, and all of us act on that, so their allegiance
and lack of integrity with their community will become a matter of record. It will be interesting to see which publications carry this story and how they carry it (or not). If not, that will be a story for social media an maybe another open letter about media’s
silent contract with. . .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cameron Shorter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open Letter: the need for Open Standards in LiDAR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi Patrick,<br>
I've asked the OSGeo board to officially support this letter. Once board support is provided, and we have collated signatures from all who wish to add their support, then I suggest we approach the media.<br>
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This should be ~ mid next week.<br>
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Cameron.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 16/04/2015 9:57 am, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear OSGeo Community,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Should this also be broadcast in the geospatial newsletters? Like MundoGeo, Sensors and Systems, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don’t know how to get these online publications to run the story, but we should give them the opportunity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The subject may not be endearing to corporate sponsors, but it is undoubtedly the right thing to do.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Our ability to communicate freely, data exchange included, seems an essential element to the life.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And why Martin Isenburg has worked so beautifully for so long! The classic David vs Goliath story!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It is now time for us to stand with him and stand strong, decidedly in the interest of all.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Patrick</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Suchith Anand<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 13, 2015 10:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>; <a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">
ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a>; <a href="mailto:tc-discuss@lists.opengeospatial.org">
tc-discuss@lists.opengeospatial.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open Letter for the need for Open Standards in LiDAR</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">To all colleagues in Academia, Government and Industry who have interest in maintaining Open Standards:</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">On behalf of
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">"Geo for All"</span></strong> community,
<a href="http://www.geoforall.org/">http://www.geoforall.org</a>, I would like to bring to your kind attention a significant development that can lead to undermining our principle for Open Geospatial Standards. I request you review the wikipage
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter</a> that is meant to represent our concern and allow for ongoing input and expression by our geospatial community.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">We specifically thank Martin Isenburg (author of LASzip and LAStools,
<a href="http://laszip.org/">http://laszip.org</a> and <a href="http://lastools.org/">
http://lastools.org</a>) for bringing this matter to our attention (email below) and an email thread of our initial discussion of this subject that highlight the wider implication of this issue
<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2015-March/001225.html">
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2015-March/001225.html</a> </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">We request all who wish to support this effort to protect Open Standards for Geospatial data to kindly add your name , email, affiliation details to the wikipage directly
or email <strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Patrick Hogan</span></strong> (Email -
<a href="mailto:patrick.hogan@nasa.gov">patrick.hogan@nasa.gov</a> ) with the subject heading
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">"Support for Open Geo Standards"</span></strong> and the following fields (Name, Email, Affiliation ) and we will gladly add this to the wiki.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">There is current interest by the OGC in pursuing point cloud encoding standards, including a member-initiated mechanism to extend LAS data with OGC-standard XML content. The
OGC invites interested members who wish to work on this effort to please contact
<strong><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Scott Simmons</span></strong> (Executive Director, Standards Program E-mail :
<a href="mailto:ssimmons@opengeospatial.org">ssimmons@opengeospatial.org</a> ) to register their interest and discuss details. OGC will also be holding an ad hoc session at our next Technical Committee meeting in Boulder, CO, USA in June 1st (more details
will be send soon) to bring together all interested from all sectors (government, industry, academia) for this and plan next steps. We welcome feedback and input from Esri and invite them to join this effort to support open LIDAR formats.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I thank you all again for your attention and support for this important matter.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Best wishes,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Suchith Anand<br>
Founder, GeoForAll<br>
<a href="http://www.geoforall.org/">http://www.geoforall.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please review: Open Letter asking to avoid format fragmentation in LiDAR standards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi all,<br>
A number of us have been collaboratively developing an Open Letter asking key stakeholders to avoid fragmentation in LiDAR standards.<br>
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It starts:<br>
<i>We, the undersigned, are concerned that the current interoperability between LiDAR applications, through use of the open "LAS" format, is being threatened by ESRI's introduction and promotion of an alternative "Optimized LAS" proprietary format. This is
of concern since the fragmentation of the LAS format will lead to reduced interoperability between applications and organisations, and introduce vendor lock-in.</i><br>
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Could all interested please:<br>
1. Review and provide feedback to this standards email list<br>
2. If you agree with the letter, please add your name to the "Signed" section</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Cameron Shorter,</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Software and Data Solutions Manager</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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