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+1 to Maxi's sentiments. Having multiple email lists/web pages which
cover the same community merely confuses new users trying to engage
with the community.<br>
<br>
Warm regards, Cameron<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/05/2015 11:37 am, Massimiliano
Cannata wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAMKYQEsUjewL7v97mvwEA=yQnpXC5fuXOTPA=Y9j3snz2bkSOg@mail.gmail.com"
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<p dir="ltr">Hello,<br>
This is my personal view that do not reflect the opinion of the
board, but only of a single member.</p>
<p dir="ltr">If Geo4All is an extension of the edu committee
aiming to be cross-organization, I would expect the edu-com to
formerly represent osgeo with respect to Ica and ISPRS and this
is not the case. Since there is no interactions I cannot see the
complimentary but only overlaps. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Personally, I feel Geo4All has replaced the edu-com.
Last email in the edu-com list seems to be dated December 2014,
while ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS list is active. <br>
Members are almost the same, so I feel there is no time and
energy to support both. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Education is one of the key missions of osgeo in my
opinion and spreading energies doesn’t make too much sense to
me.<br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr">My 2 cents</p>
<p dir="ltr">Maxi</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Il 21-mag-2015 05:11, "Charles Schweik"
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<div dir="ltr">The below view makes sense to me.
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<div>I'm cc'ing the OSGeo Board list so they can see your
thoughts here, Suchith.
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<div>Charlie</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:54 AM,
Suchith Anand <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi
Charlie,<br>
<br>
My suggestion is to have a link the GeoforAll website
from OSGeo Education or ideally directly from OSGeo
homepage. It is important to keep both OSGeo Education
Committee and GeoforAll as they are complimentary. The
whole idea of GeoforAll was to make this a wider
geocommunity initiative (hence we have OSGeo, ICA and
ISPRS Presidents as cochairs in our Advisory Board along
with GeoforAll community nominated members <a
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href="http://www.geoforall.org/advisory_board/"
target="_blank">http://www.geoforall.org/advisory_board/</a><br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Suchith<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: Charles Schweik [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu"
target="_blank">cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu</a>]<br>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:43 AM<br>
To: Phillip Davis<br>
Cc: Suchith Anand; Steven Feldman; <a
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href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>;
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Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers
to help with building and hosting GeoforAll website in
OSGeo infrastructure<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
This probably relates directly to my last post to the
OSGeo Board and the distinction between OSGeo Education
Committee and GeoForAll.<br>
<br>
I think we can, and probably should, combine them. If
others agree, this would mean building from the OSGeo
Education page [1]. I have the authority to update that
page and need to because the ELOgeo link is not
functioning on it and some other updating is needed.<br>
<br>
My problem here is time... I'm trying to focus my
attention on a GeoForAll grant proposal right now! If
someone can come up with revised content for those pages
(or we replace with a GeoForAll link)...<br>
<br>
But I think we should see what the board thinks about
whether the Education group and GeoForAll should be
combined or separated?<br>
<br>
Or what do others think of this question? (sorry -- I
forsee a bunch of threads on this coming in our
in-boxes!)<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Charlie<br>
<br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/education" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/education</a><br>
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On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Phillip Davis <<a
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target="_blank">pdavis@delmar.edu</a><mailto:<a
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target="_blank">pdavis@delmar.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
Suchith you can count on my limited talents to
contribute to this worthy and necessary cause.<br>
<br>
Phillip Davis<br>
________________________________________<br>
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On Behalf Of Suchith Anand [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a
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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:31 AM<br>
To: Steven Feldman; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><mailto:<a
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Subject: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open call for volunteers to
help with building and hosting GeoforAll website in
OSGeo infrastructure<br>
<br>
Colleagues,<br>
<br>
I would like to call upon all of you , if you can help
volunteer to build a website for "Geo for All" <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.geoforall.org/" target="_blank">http://www.geoforall.org/</a>
in OSGeo infrastructure<br>
<br>
Key advantages:<br>
<br>
1. We can ensure long term hosting and development as
the initiative grows<br>
<br>
2. We will be able to provide the whole $5k of our
budget for student travel awards for FOSS4G- Seoul 2015<br>
<br>
I am sure our University of Southampton colleagues will
be happy to work with any interested volunteers to move
the website from the current hosts (University of
Southampton) to OSGeo infrastructure.<br>
<br>
It will be great if we can have many volunteers so we
can spread the efforts. I am willing to volunteer my
time and efforts for provide content etc for this. Could
you please let us all know if you are wlling to help by
30th May 2015, so we can plan ideas. Thanks.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Suchith<br>
<br>
<br>
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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:11 AM<br>
To: Suchith Anand; OSGeo-Board<br>
Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of
meeting tomorrow<br>
<br>
Suchith, Board<br>
<br>
We should not be diverting money from the student travel
budget to build a web site for Geo4All. Either use the
OSGeo infrastructure or get volunteers to spin something
up, with all of the universities involved there must be
some people with the necessary skills who can do this,
we should not be paying Southampton to do it<br>
<br>
steven<br>
<br>
From: Suchith Anand <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk"
target="_blank">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a
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Subject: Re: [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Reminder of
meeting tomorrow<br>
Date: 21 May 2015 01:01:15 BST<br>
To: Massimiliano Cannata <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a><mailto:<a
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<br>
<br>
Hi Massimiliano,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your queries.<br>
<br>
Yes, GeoforAll is 100 percent an OSGeo Education
initiative (but supported by others like ICA, ISPRS
through MoUs and we hope more like minded organisations
who have interest in enabling Geospatial education and
opportunities for all join us in the future).<br>
<br>
Regarding your questions:<br>
<br>
- Does a budget for Geo4All exists?<br>
<br>
Yes, the only budget we have is the $5k allocation for
ICA/OSGeo Labs Student Travel in the OSGeo budget last
year and this year. Last year budget [1] if i remember
correctly we did not use it .<br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2014"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2014</a><br>
<br>
<br>
- ISPRS, ICA and OSGeo how they support the initiative,
apart from having signed the MoU?<br>
<br>
For example in addition to the amazing support that both
ICA and ISPRS has given which helped us expand to many
universities globally , they have been contributing to
student awards etc. For example for the Europa World
Wind challenge 2015, both ICA and ISPRS are contributing
student prizes <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2015-May/001531.html"
target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2015-May/001531.html</a>
I remember ICA gave student awards last year also for
Europa challenge.<br>
<br>
- Why Geo4All need a website hosted in Nottingham and is
not using the OSGeo infrastructure, like the OSGeo
committees (incubation, marketing, etc.)?<br>
<br>
First of all, it is NOT hosted in Nottingham, it is
developed and hosted by the University of Southampton.
We had long , big discussions in Geofor all maillists to
see who can help us with the website development and
hosting . In fact, our first offer came from colleagues
in Mexico but unfortunately even after nearly 1 year
delay nothing happened and thankfully that time
University of Southampton colleagues stepped in and
volunteered to develop a website for us free and i am
very grateful for that.<br>
<br>
If OSGeo intrstructure can be provided and we can get
volunteers for developing and maintaining our website ,
we will be very happy. The website is really key for us
and we need to make sure it is supported long term. For
example, the open educational repository that we at
University of Nottingham developed called ELOGeo, i
wanted to transfer to OSGeo infrastructure when the
project funding ended and i did send many emails but
nothing happened. We do not want the same thing to
happen to our website as we spend huge amounts of time
and effort reaching this stage and hence we request
support for the website developments . As you can see
from the links in my email there has been lot of
discussions from the community on this and supporting
our website developments is the top priority.<br>
<br>
- How Geo4All differentiates from the educational
committee? Shall we consider that committee dead and
replaced by Geo4All?<br>
<br>
GeoforAll is a key element of OSGeo Education initiative
not replacing the educational committee . The biggest
advantage of having GeoforAll initiative is that we have
made OSGeo Education into a wider geocommunity
initiative ( not just OSGeo but much wider geocommunity
inititative in collaboration with other like minded
organisations) and we need to take actions to expand
this.<br>
<br>
Please let me know if there are any other queries.
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Suchith<br>
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P +61 2 9009 5000, W <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>, F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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