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<p><font face="calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hi all. I feel that I have to say that I completely disagree with that "software agnostic" point of view; otherwise I wouldn't be supporting this initiative, among other
things. Or is -for example- OSGeo "software agnostic"? The MoU approved between ICA and OSGeo that gave rise to Geo4all leaves no doubt about it. I also agree -as Suchith- that</span></font><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><font color="#282828" face="calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> the
focus should be on the development of a set of core competencies and course objectives. But as we say in my country: one thing is one thing and another thing is another thing. We need to create consciousness about the importance of supporting the development
of open-source geospatial software technologies, training and expertise. It is not at all only a question of money; it`s about independence, it's about freedom -to choose, to create, to disseminate-, and of course it's a question of sovereignty. When we developed
the Batoví project for the Plan Ceibal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orwN9K07XPo) we decided to use open-source software for these reasons (in addition to the "money" thing, obviously...); otherwise it would have failed. Now we can develop those above-mentioned competencies
and course objectives </span>any time<span style="font-size: 12pt;">, anywhere, free of charge and -most important- free of conditions. Sorry for this but I felt I needed to say it. Thanks Suchith for your first mail on this thread that inspired me to write
this one.</span></font></span><br>
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<p><span style="background-color: #ffffff;"><font color="#282828" face="calibri, arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cheers,</span></font></span></p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>De:</b> ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org <ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> en nombre de Charles Schweik <cschweik@pubpol.umass.edu><br>
<b>Enviado:</b> jueves, 11 de junio de 2015 15:15<br>
<b>Para:</b> Anthony Robinson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please apply to AAG call before June 15th, 2015</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all,
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<div>Based on these emails, I've added to our meeting planning wiki for GeoForAll in Como [1]: </div>
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<div>- Discussion of membership criteria;</div>
<div>- Closing BOF discussion of action items over summer, identification of people going to Seoul and starting a discussion of what we do there as a group.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Friendly reminder: If you will be in Como, please add your name to the various meeting times you can attend [1].</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Charlie </div>
<div><br>
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<div>[1] <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Europe_2015_GeoForAll_Agenda">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Europe_2015_GeoForAll_Agenda</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Anthony Robinson <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:acr181@psu.edu" target="_blank">acr181@psu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Are there plans for a follow-up on Como at FOSS4G in Seoul? We're excited to sponsor FOSS4G for the second year in a row and I would be keen to participate in a GeoForAll conversation over some Soju in Seoul.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
-A.<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Phillip Davis" <<a href="mailto:pdavis@delmar.edu">pdavis@delmar.edu</a>><br>
To: "Anthony Robinson" <<a href="mailto:acr181@psu.edu">acr181@psu.edu</a>>, <a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">
ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:45:58 PM<br>
Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please apply to AAG call before June 15th, 2015<br>
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Thanks Anthony. We will discuss your points in Como @ FOSS4G EU and see if we can provide a more compelling value for membership.<br>
<br>
<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: <a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] On Behalf Of Anthony Robinson [<a href="mailto:acr181@psu.edu">acr181@psu.edu</a>]<br>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:40 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Open GIS Academics and educators please apply to AAG call before June 15th, 2015<br>
<br>
Yeah, about that! I've been watching the discussion regarding what lab activity is required and what membership means with eager eyes. I would like to be able to make the case to my colleagues to join. I do think clarity on what activity means and what the
benefits are would be helpful.<br>
<br>
I know that the answers to these questions are under debate here. When I look at the criteria I can see that we have been doing all of those things, so that's not a worry I have. Instead I'd rather know that by committing to something we're doing something
tangible for our students. Every move I make is evaluated in terms of whether or not it adds value to the educational experience for our students. Since we already do the things that GeoForAll asks for, I will be asked to explain what we gain from setting
up yet another website and assigning someone to developing an annual report (a big deal for a program that has over a thousand students and dozens of faculty - that's not easy to summarize).<br>
<br>
I also can't just sign up Penn State by my decision alone. It would have to be vetted by the Department, College, risk management, etc... If our university ends up on a list of institutions in a press release from GeoForAll, I have to answer to that, and that's
perhaps the biggest question to sort out for my specific context.<br>
<br>
<br>
-A.<br>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Charlie Schweik<br>
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Associate Professor, University of Massachusetts, Amherst
<div>Dept of Environmental Conservation and Center for Public Policy and Administration</div>
<div><br>
<div>Personal website: <a href="http://people.umass.edu/cschweik" target="_blank">
http://people.umass.edu/cschweik</a></div>
<div>Publications: <a href="http://works.bepress.com/charles_schweik/" target="_blank">http://works.bepress.com/charles_schweik/</a></div>
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Author, Internet Success: A Study of Open Source Software (MIT Press, 2012) - see
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/d3e4545" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/d3e4545</a></div>
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