<p dir="ltr">Dear all<br>
I agree with Jeff principles.<br>
During the osgwo event we should shomehow foster osgeo. Everywhere.<br>
I do not want to enter into porocedural details or rules of prize assignment. <br>
I just would like to see clearly incetivayed the use of osgeo software.<br>
Then also someone who make amzing things mixing proprietary and open source non-osgeo could win the award.</p>
<p dir="ltr">But to reinforce osgeo brand and to help osgeo projects i would like this principle clearly promoted.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Then i undrstand geo4all is not osgeo and it can do whatever it believes is better and osgeo do not have any autoritative role to drive this.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Maxi<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Il 01/Ott/2015 06:57, "Suchith Anand" <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dimitris , Very good points and i hope Jeff will come with more clarifications/answers to these queries.<br>
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Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Suchith<br>
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Hi Jeff, all<br>
<br>
before taking a final position on your - admittedly - strong note on the<br>
Geo4All awards, I would like to ask some clarifications and offer some<br>
comments hoping that this will facilitate the discussion and avoid<br>
making it a conflict. Let me say first that I understand the reasoning<br>
saying that an award funded by OSGEO, in the main OSGEO event, should<br>
focus on OSGEO software.<br>
So some requests for clarifications first:<br>
- how do you see the award selection working: students are allowed to<br>
submit when they are using at a 100% OSGEO projects? What happens when<br>
for a specific student task an OSGEO project is not available? What<br>
happens when the student add his/hers own source code to do something<br>
(which could be in the form of a tool or an external library)? Do we<br>
talk about full projects or also about non-OSGEO libraries used in<br>
student projects?<br>
Personally I would understand more a position that says that the<br>
projects should use substantially (by this I mean playing a crucial role<br>
in the project) at least one OSGEO project.<br>
- I was confused by your answer to Gert-Jan: if the LOC has full<br>
authority, then the instructions apply only to the Geo4All community?<br>
- do you see this as a decision to be made by the OSGEO President or the<br>
Board or by the Geo4All community, which in principle includes also<br>
people not related to OSGEO (since it is a joint OSGEO/ISPRS/ICA initiative?<br>
- why do you differentiate between the global and the regional FOSS4G?<br>
Since now at the European and the NA FOSS4G are becoming equally big<br>
with the international one (with their own limitations of course) I<br>
cannot understand why you differentiate. At least from a Geo4All<br>
perspective (but also from my perspective for OSGEO's future) I cannot<br>
see the difference.<br>
<br>
Some comments, if anyone is interested: from my academic (and thus maybe<br>
limited or biased) perspective this is not a good way to advance. I<br>
always try to get students to use the best tool they have for the job,<br>
with one of the most important factors of choosing the best to be its<br>
openness both in terms of software license but also (if relevant) in<br>
protocols/standards and data used. So for me it would be at least weird<br>
to tell them (important to note that we are teaching these students)<br>
that excellence and quality and openness come after the OSGEO brand.<br>
Also I think that most (I would even go as far as to say that all) of<br>
our projects are of top quality and if a student is looking for a tool<br>
to implement a project idea then they will be his/hers first choice.<br>
Imposing a purity restriction actually gives a message that we are not<br>
so confident on that.<br>
<br>
Please take this as an effort to discuss this, as I said I understand<br>
also the reasoning behind Jeff's message. I am not yet convinced that<br>
these reasons supersede other principles and also provide more benefits<br>
than the issues they raise.<br>
My 2c and thanks for listening,<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Dimitris<br>
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