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<div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Good points Ela . I just saw your mail. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">Also i have another query to </font><span style="font-size: medium; ">Franz-Josef, Tanzeel </span><font size="3"> . If the certification is based on geospatial technology competency model does it need to be
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<div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">So for example, the students undertaking the MOOC programs run by GeoAcademy if they complete successfully the program they should be eligible for OSGeo certification (if it is established) as they have both done a
program based on geospatial technology competency model and used FOSS4G tools, open data etc. </font></div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">So what happens if it is university is in UK (or any other country) that do not follow the geospatial technology competency model?</font></div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">I think the idea is good but many questions to answer which i hope Franz-Josef, Tanzeel will explain more details.</font></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2015 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Franz-Josef Behr; tanzeel rehman<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Suchith Anand; ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Certification<br>
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<div>Dear Franz-Josef, Tanzeel,<br>
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Your conversation with Suchith it's quite similar to the one we did in Nodebo during the 1st QGIS Conference (then it was obviously related to QGIS only).<br>
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I have two general questions... <br>
No. 1 What does it mean "FOSS4G/OsGeo certification"? What kind of competences should be covered by this certification - use of specific soft only (which one) or some broader knowledge & skills related to implementation of GI tools and spatial data?<br>
No. 2 How is your idea related to QGIS certification (mentioned in the email)?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2015-10-20 o 11:45, Franz-Josef Behr pisze:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Dear Suchith,<br>
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thank you for your message and concerns. I'd like to bring in some clarification.<br>
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<li>Basically certification for FOSS should be based on the community for the community.
</li><li>Accreditation must be given by an acknowledged organisation like OSGeo, as you mentioned, and perhaps other communities (i.e. QGIS association [1]). This should be the "umbrella".
</li><li>Examinations should be endorsed by acknowledged Universities (i.e. Geo4All members). Here I am looking for supporters.<br>
</li><li>Education is provided by certified trainers (still further work needed) </li><li>Organisational work and management has to be done by an agency. This could be an opportunity for Tanzeel.
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In my opinion FOSS4G/OSGeo certifications can be beneficial for all participants:<br>
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<li>for the community </li><li>for the further dissemination of open tools, data, and standards </li><li>for the trainees </li><li>for the trainers </li><li>for the companies looking for employees </li><li>for the organising agency </li><li>for Universities (offering education). </li></ul>
Similar to [1] certification should have either a fixed, moderate cost, or a cost relative to the GDP/mean salary of the country of origin of the trainee
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Suchith and colleagues, I'd really appreciate your support and your ideas.<br>
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Regards<br>
Franz-Josef<br>
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification" target="_blank">
http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Certification</a><br>
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<div><font size="3">Thank you for the email and more information. The idea of <span style="">open source certification model based on geospatial technology competency model is good BUT i do have concerns on your aim to </span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'">commercialise
this certification under the umberella of a private company. OSGeo Board should be the one who should be able to take the decision on certification for OSGeo software training.</span></font></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3">I was not aware of your discussions with Jeff and others on this that you mention in your mail . I am ccing this to our education colleagues, so they can give an informed answer and suggestions
to this. I suggest that you email the OSGeo Board with all details, so that they will be able to give you suggestions on the best way for this.</font></span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'"><font size="3">Best wishes,</font></span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2015 2:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">
suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Suchith<br>
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Thanks for concerns .yes it is my master thesis and I develop an open source certification model based on geospatial technology competency model. I preseneted this topic in FOSS4g Como pre conference and it was highly appriciated even some of guys were really
intrested. We had a meeting also for accereditation and approval for this model and jeff suggested that it should be project based certifocation. Now a days me in spokane for gis pro confernece because i want to commercialise this certification under the umberella
of my new born company spatial junction <br>
And my second supervisor phillip davis appriciated alot.<br>
I need support and suggesstions from all of you to uplift the OSgeo model<br>
Thanks<br>
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">
Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com" target="_blank">
tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com</a><br>
CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">
ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders in Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:45:14 +0000<br>
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<div>Apologies i could not understand the background discussion on the topic on certification. From Frans-Josef email some time back i understand this is something related to your Masters Thesis. Is this correct? Did you discuss this with the OSGeo Board? If
it is related to OSGeo certification then you should get approval from the OSGeo Board first.</div>
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