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I was not aware of this initiative (except something in Germany
called ECDL Computer Driving License").<br>
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Thank you for this pointer.<br>
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Regards - Franz-Josef <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.10.2015 um 13:39 schrieb Elżbieta
Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska:<br>
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Hi Franz-Josef,<br>
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So it seems that your idea is similar to the one developed by AICA
which established ECDL GIS exams (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="http://www.ecdl.org/programmes/index.jsp?p=771&n=772">http://www.ecdl.org/programmes/index.jsp?p=771&n=772</a>),
isn't it? However, ECDL GIS is not a worldwide initiative. It
exists in only few countries in Europe (for example in Poland). So
that's the biggest difference :-)<br>
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Regard,<br>
Ela<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2015-10-20 o 13:23,
Franz-Josef Behr pisze:<br>
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type="cite"> Dear Elżbieta,<br>
<br>
I try to answer your question:<br>
<br>
1. The goal is to create a portfolio of certifications related
to the usage and implementation of Geo-spatial Open Source
solutions (as we discussed in Como). So far we take the
following certifications into approach (with 2 - 3
sub-categories):<br>
<br>
<ol>
<li>Positioning and data acquisition</li>
<li>Analysis and Modeling</li>
<li>Software, Application and Development</li>
</ol>
<br>
Hence it is geared to "some broader knowledge & skills
related to implementation of GI tools and spatial dat". As you
can see it's not product-oriented but Tanzeel developed
suggestions for the usage of tools from the OSGeo Projects [1]<br>
<br>
2. I think that QGIS certification is product specific and hence
complimentary<br>
<br>
Regards - Franz-Josef <br>
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[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.osgeo.org/">http://www.osgeo.org/</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.10.2015 um 12:14 schrieb
Elżbieta Wołoszyńska-Wiśniewska:<br>
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Dear Franz-Josef, Tanzeel,<br>
<br>
Your conversation with Suchith it's quite similar to the one
we did in Nodebo during the 1st QGIS Conference (then it was
obviously related to QGIS only).<br>
<br>
I have two general questions... <br>
No. 1 What does it mean "FOSS4G/OsGeo certification"? What
kind of competences should be covered by this certification -
use of specific soft only (which one) or some broader
knowledge & skills related to implementation of GI tools
and spatial data?<br>
No. 2 How is your idea related to QGIS certification
(mentioned in the email)?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2015-10-20 o 11:45,
Franz-Josef Behr pisze:<br>
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type="cite"> Dear Suchith,<br>
<br>
thank you for your message and concerns. I'd like to bring
in some clarification.<br>
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<ol>
<li>Basically certification for FOSS should be based on
the community for the community. </li>
<li>Accreditation must be given by an acknowledged
organisation like OSGeo, as you mentioned, and perhaps
other communities (i.e. QGIS association [1]). This
should be the "umbrella".</li>
<li>Examinations should be endorsed by acknowledged
Universities (i.e. Geo4All members). Here I am looking
for supporters.<br>
</li>
<li>Education is provided by certified trainers (still
further work needed)</li>
<li>Organisational work and management has to be done by
an agency. This could be an opportunity for Tanzeel.</li>
</ol>
<br>
In my opinion FOSS4G/OSGeo certifications can be beneficial
for all participants:<br>
<br>
<ul>
<li>for the community</li>
<li>for the further dissemination of open tools, data, and
standards</li>
<li>for the trainees</li>
<li>for the trainers</li>
<li>for the companies looking for employees</li>
<li>for the organising agency</li>
<li>for Universities (offering education).</li>
</ul>
Similar to [1] certification should have either a fixed,
moderate cost, or a cost relative to the GDP/mean salary of
the country of origin of the trainee <br>
<br>
Suchith and colleagues, I'd really appreciate your support
and your ideas.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Franz-Josef<br>
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Suchith Anand:<br>
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<div><font size="3">Thank you for the email and more
information. The idea of <span style="font-family:
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model based on geospatial technology competency
model is good BUT i do have concerns on your aim
to </span><span style="font-family: 'Times New
Roman'; ">commercialise this certification under
the umberella of a private company. OSGeo Board
should be the one who should be able to take the
decision on certification for OSGeo software
training.</span></font></div>
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size="3">I was not aware of your discussions with
Jeff and others on this that you mention in your
mail . I am ccing this to our education
colleagues, so they can give an informed answer
and suggestions to this. I suggest that you email
the OSGeo Board with all details, so that they
will be able to give you suggestions on the best
way for this.</font></span></div>
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tanzeel rehman [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com">tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2015 2:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk">suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant
for Leaders in Innovation Fellowships (LIF)
UK-Egypt Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Suchith<br>
<br>
Thanks for concerns .yes it is my master thesis
and I develop an open source certification model
based on geospatial technology competency model.
I preseneted this topic in FOSS4g Como pre
conference and it was highly appriciated even
some of guys were really intrested. We had a
meeting also for accereditation and approval for
this model and jeff suggested that it should be
project based certifocation. Now a days me in
spokane for gis pro confernece because i want to
commercialise this certification under the
umberella of my new born company spatial
junction <br>
And my second supervisor phillip
davis appriciated alot.<br>
I need support and suggesstions from all of you
to uplift the OSgeo model<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
<hr> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com">tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com</a><br>
CC: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for
Leaders in Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt
Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:45:14 +0000<br>
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<div>Apologies i could not understand the
background discussion on the topic on
certification. From Frans-Josef email some
time back i understand this is something
related to your Masters Thesis. Is this
correct? Did you discuss this with the OSGeo
Board? If it is related to OSGeo
certification then you should get approval
from the OSGeo Board first.</div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Suchith</div>
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