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Dear Franz-Josef, Tanzeel,<br>
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Your conversation with Suchith it's quite similar to the one we did
in Nodebo during the 1st QGIS Conference (then it was obviously
related to QGIS only).<br>
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I have two general questions... <br>
No. 1 What does it mean "FOSS4G/OsGeo certification"? What kind of
competences should be covered by this certification - use of
specific soft only (which one) or some broader knowledge &
skills related to implementation of GI tools and spatial data?<br>
No. 2 How is your idea related to QGIS certification (mentioned in
the email)?<br>
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Regards,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">W dniu 2015-10-20 o 11:45, Franz-Josef
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Dear Suchith,<br>
<br>
thank you for your message and concerns. I'd like to bring in some
clarification.<br>
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<ol>
<li>Basically certification for FOSS should be based on the
community for the community. </li>
<li>Accreditation must be given by an acknowledged organisation
like OSGeo, as you mentioned, and perhaps other communities
(i.e. QGIS association [1]). This should be the "umbrella".</li>
<li>Examinations should be endorsed by acknowledged Universities
(i.e. Geo4All members). Here I am looking for supporters.<br>
</li>
<li>Education is provided by certified trainers (still further
work needed)</li>
<li>Organisational work and management has to be done by an
agency. This could be an opportunity for Tanzeel.</li>
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In my opinion FOSS4G/OSGeo certifications can be beneficial for
all participants:<br>
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<ul>
<li>for the community</li>
<li>for the further dissemination of open tools, data, and
standards</li>
<li>for the trainees</li>
<li>for the trainers</li>
<li>for the companies looking for employees</li>
<li>for the organising agency</li>
<li>for Universities (offering education).</li>
</ul>
Similar to [1] certification should have either a fixed, moderate
cost, or a cost relative to the GDP/mean salary of the country of
origin of the trainee <br>
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Suchith and colleagues, I'd really appreciate your support and
your ideas.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Franz-Josef<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 19.10.2015 um 15:42 schrieb
Suchith Anand:<br>
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<div><font size="3">Thank you for the email and more
information. The idea of <span style="font-family: 'Times
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geospatial technology competency model is good BUT i do
have concerns on your aim to </span><span
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this certification under the umberella of a private
company. OSGeo Board should be the one who should be
able to take the decision on certification for OSGeo
software training.</span></font></div>
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size="3">I was not aware of your discussions with Jeff
and others on this that you mention in your mail . I am
ccing this to our education colleagues, so they can give
an informed answer and suggestions to this. I suggest
that you email the OSGeo Board with all details, so that
they will be able to give you suggestions on the best
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color="#000000" size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b>
tanzeel rehman [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com">tanzeelrehman130@hotmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2015 2:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk">suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for
Leaders in Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt
Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Suchith<br>
<br>
Thanks for concerns .yes it is my master thesis and I
develop an open source certification model based on
geospatial technology competency model. I preseneted
this topic in FOSS4g Como pre conference and it was
highly appriciated even some of guys were really
intrested. We had a meeting also for accereditation
and approval for this model and jeff suggested that it
should be project based certifocation. Now a days me
in spokane for gis pro confernece because i want to
commercialise this certification under the umberella
of my new born company spatial junction <br>
And my second supervisor phillip davis appriciated
alot.<br>
I need support and suggesstions from all of you to
uplift the OSgeo model<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
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href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
Subject: RE: [Ica-osgeo-labs] STDF Grant for Leaders
in Innovation Fellowships (LIF) UK-Egypt
Newton-Mosharafa Program<br>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:45:14 +0000<br>
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<div>Apologies i could not understand the background
discussion on the topic on certification. From
Frans-Josef email some time back i understand this
is something related to your Masters Thesis. Is
this correct? Did you discuss this with the OSGeo
Board? If it is related to OSGeo certification
then you should get approval from the OSGeo Board
first.</div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
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<div>Suchith</div>
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