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    <p>Suthith,</p>
    <p>I am confused by the content of this email thread, and concerned
      that there have been public allegations of misconduct, without
      specific examples, or specific calls to action specifying how
      specific parties should change to address this. I feel that such
      allegations which have potential commercial impacts should not be
      made lightly and need backing information.<br>
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    <p>It is unclear to me whether someone is acting legitimately
      according to business principles of their company, or if people
      are breaking contracts they set up, or acting in "bad faith". <br>
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    <p>Suthith, as I know you, I believe you are acting in good faith to
      address a moral issue by putting the spotlight on questionable
      behavior. If you wish to address issues like this, then I feel
      your concerns should to be expressed more clearly and
      specifically, which would likely mean naming specific actions that
      you disagree with and probably naming organisations involved. You
      might want to consider writing an Open Letter, as we have
      successfully done before [1] [2]. (Note: this is very time
      consuming).<br>
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    <p>[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API</a><br>
      [2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter</a><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/7/18 4:21 am, Suchith Anand
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Dear Anthony,</span></p>
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">These are two separate
            issues but it highlights the problems we are facing in
            science and education</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0,
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          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">today.</span><span
            style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 
          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I am a humble ICA
            volunteer and I am working for the last 15 years building
            ICA in my small way. My issue is not at all with ICA , it is
            just the way this whole SDG book is handled from the start.</span></p>
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I have great respect for
            Menno-Jan. I personally emailed colleagues for supporting
            the SDG book in good faith. Thank you for informing me that
            SDG book is not now going to be published through GIS vendor
            controlled press. I would have greatly appreciated a mail
            from Menno-Jan informing this . I am disappointed with the
            lack of openness and transparency in this whole issue. If I
            have not raised this issue so strongly, then Menno-Jan would
            have got it published through vendor controlled press as he
            planned . This is actually what is happening if we are
            silent.
          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span></p>
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I have highlighted some
            issues</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 
          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">that made me
            concerned</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 
          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">of the</span><span
            style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 
          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">degrading of science
            that is happening including now with some vendors starting
            using “science” for marketing/sales of their products.</span><span
            style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 
          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I am</span><span
            style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 
          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">hoping that you will
            also be taking a strong stand on this.</span><span
            style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span></p>
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I have no problem with any
            organisation taking sponsorship for conferences as there are
            clear guidelines for what is expected. For example, as a
            conference sponsor in exchange they get exhibition space,
            logo in conference website etc.</span></p>
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">But I have concern if any
            office bearers of any professional organisations , academic
            journals, editors have conflict of interest with any vendors
            (open or properitery). In my humble opinion, It is good
            practice to declare any conflict of interest.  </span><span
            style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">As you rightly said “Virtually
            everyone involved in editing/reviewing a journal today is
            seeing stuff like that” but what are we</span><span
            style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 
          </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">doing to stop this?
            We cannot ignore this. I am happy to see some very good
            journal editors like the ICA colleague who emailed me
            informing the issue asking advice. He could have easily
            ignored it . So I greatly respect him for his courage and
            conscience.</span></p>
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">We are all human and people
            make mistakes but it is important that we learn from them. I
            thank you for your mail and sharing your valuable ideas and
            inputs with the community.</span></p>
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Best wishes,</span></p>
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          <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Suchith</span></p>
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              GeoForAll <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:geoforall-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"><geoforall-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a> on
              behalf of Anthony Robinson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:acr181@psu.edu"><acr181@psu.edu></a><br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 16 July 2018 15:44<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geoforall@lists.osgeo.org">geoforall@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geo4All] Open request for updates on
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                  color:#1F497D">You are making many assumptions and
                  strange connections in your message. Did you try
                  reaching out to Menno-Jan directly, rather than via
                  this mailing list? It’s strange to call people out via
                  a mailing list and act as though they owe you a
                  response. That’s not a particularly friendly way to
                  start a conversation.</span></p>
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                  color:#1F497D">I share Christian’s concern that you
                  are appearing to conflate fake articles in predatory
                  journals to the ICA’s interest in an SDG-related
                  publication. Such things are happening across the
                  scientific spectrum today and have nothing in
                  particular to do with the ICA or its interest in
                  creating an SDG publication. Virtually everyone
                  involved in editing/reviewing a journal today is
                  seeing stuff like that. It’s a problem for sure, but I
                  don’t understand why you are aiming this issue at the
                  ICA in particular.</span></p>
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              <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                  color:#1F497D">I am an ICA Commission chair and to my
                  knowledge the SDG publication is no longer under
                  consideration as an Esri Press item, so I recommend
                  you relax a little on that front.</span></p>
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                  color:#1F497D">Re: sponsorship and the like, just as
                  every other conference does, the ICA publishes its
                  list of financial sponsors for the biannual
                  conference. That’s the whole idea of sponsorship,
                  after all – to gain visibility in association with an
                  organization/meeting.</span></p>
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                  color:#1F497D">Anthony C. Robinson, PhD<br>
                  Assistant Professor, Department of Geography<br>
                  Director for Online Geospatial Education, John A.
                  Dutton e-Education Institute<br>
                  Assistant Director, GeoVISTA Center<br>
                  The Pennsylvania State University<br>
                  sites.psu.edu/arobinson/</span><span
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                      GeoForAll
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                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Suchith Anand<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 16, 2018 6:37 AM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Christian Willmes
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:c.willmes@uni-koeln.de"><c.willmes@uni-koeln.de></a>;
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geoforall@lists.osgeo.org">geoforall@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geo4All] Open request for
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                <p style=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
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                    color:black">No, the SDG book is a different issue
                    .  I had requested many times to Menno-Jan to please
                    have free and open discussions on this .But
                    unfortunately my requests were not successful and I
                    have not got any information even one year later.</span><span
                    style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica
                    Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                <p style=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:black">In spite of all concerns raised by
                    volunteer colleagues,  I really do not understand
                    the motivations for publishing the SDG book only
                    through vendor publication!</span><span
                    style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica
                    Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                <p style="min-height:14px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:#454545"> </span></p>
                <p style=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:black">“Fake Science” , “Factory produced
                    articles” etc are  recent phenomena that the geo
                    community  needs to be aware of and take steps to
                    prevent. I have requested the ICA colleague who
                    emailed me for advice on 29th June 2018  to send an
                    open letter to the community, so colleagues are
                    aware of this.  I really hope he will not bow to any
                    pressures and do send an open letter with details to
                    the wider community.</span><span
                    style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica
                    Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                <p style="min-height:14px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:#454545"> </span></p>
                <p style=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:black">In the email I received ,  it was just
                    the overview that his  journal  are receiving  lot
                    of submissions  from a country  that are very
                    similar  -“ poorly written, poor map design – to the
                    point that they seem written in a factory” . They
                    were all using one proprietary GIS  software and
                    deal with some aspect of physical geography. He
                    asked for my advice.</span><span
                    style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica
                    Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                <p style="min-height:14px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:#454545"> </span></p>
                <p style=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:black"> I am very grateful to the ICA
                    colleague  who emailed me and informed this issue. 
                    I don’t know the details of the papers  but I am
                    also interested to see the examples of  atleast some
                    of these papers (may be as editor of journal he can
                    provide these by removing the author details ).  I
                    do hope he will send an open letter to the community
                    with the summary of how many articles they are
                    receiving which are problem. It will help  us to get
                    an idea of the scale of the problem.</span><span
                    style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica
                    Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                <p style="min-height:14px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:#454545"> </span></p>
                <p style=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:black">It is very sad to see this degrading of
                    science happening. As Educators and Scientists , I
                    believe we cannot sit silently. There will be lot of
                    pressure from  vested interests , but I
                    am requesting all colleagues to not bow to any
                    pressures. Thank you.</span><span
                    style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica
                    Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                <p style="min-height:14px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:#454545"> </span></p>
                <p style=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:black">Best wishes,</span><span
                    style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica
                    Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                <p style="min-height:14px"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:#454545"> </span></p>
                <p style=""><span style="font-size:9.0pt;
                    font-family:"Helvetica Neue",serif;
                    color:black">Suchith</span><span
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                    Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
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                          color:black">From:</span></b><span
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                        color:black"> GeoForAll <<a
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                        <b>Sent:</b> 16 July 2018 09:54<br>
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                          geoforall@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geo4All] Open request for
                        updates on SDG book</span><span
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                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                        color:black">Dear Suchith,</span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                        color:black"> </span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                        color:black">regarding this "Fake Science"
                        thing. Is this in any way connected to the book
                        initiative you addressed in the first two
                        paragraphs?</span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                        color:black"> </span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                        color:black">Anyway, I would be quite interested
                        in seeing such a "factory produced fake science"
                        article? Can you maybe point to an example?</span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                        color:black"> </span></p>
                    <p style="background:white"><span
                        style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                        color:black">Thanks and best regards,<br>
                        Christian</span></p>
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                      <p class="x_MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Am
                          14.07.2018 um 16:13 schrieb Suchith Anand:</span></p>
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                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">Dear
                            Menno-Jan,</span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">It is now
                            over one year and I have not heard any
                            updates on the SDG book [1] .  As far as I
                            am aware, there was no emails received  in
                            the GeoforAll lists on this till now. Please
                            correct me if I am wrong.</span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">As you are
                            aware, I have personally requested
                            colleagues  in the open source Geo community
                            to support the ICA SDG book initiative and
                            they have contributed to this book project
                            in good faith, so I request you to kindly
                            keep them informed. I thank you for your
                            kind understanding.</span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">We are now
                            seeing a very disturbing trend with  some
                            vendors even starting to trademark “
                            science” for marketing/sales of their 
                            products and   “science” is being misused
                            for vendor marketing/sales! . I have raised
                            this issue through an open letter [2] . The
                            good news  is that now everyone knows it is
                            just marketing/sales gimmicks of vendor .
                            Science is not owned by any vendors.</span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                            color:black">But two weeks back, I received
                            a email query from a respectable and senior
                            ICA 
                          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">colleague
                            that made me very concerned. He is one of
                            the editors of a GIS journal . They are
                            receiving  lot of submissions  from a
                            country  that are very similar</span><span
                            style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                            color:black"> 
                          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">-“ poorly
                            written, poor map design – to the point that
                            they seem written in a factory” .  They were
                            all using one proprietary GIS</span><span
                            style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                            color:black">  software </span><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">and deal with
                            some aspect of physical geography. </span><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">He asked
                            for my advice.</span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                            color:black">I thanked him for sharing this
                             information and though I do not know the
                            background or details of the papers or
                            authors, I am also very concerned  to hear
                            about this . It is really sad to see the
                            state of affairs in GIS . I requested  </span><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">him to take
                            strong action against any “factory produced”
                            science and reject them.
                          </span><span
                            style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                            color:black"> I am concerned in </span><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">the rapid
                            increase in  “Fake Science” . I  requested
                            him to inform this to the wider community
                            through an open letter .</span><span
                            style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                            color:black"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                            color:black">But this is not the solution as
                            if one journal rejects these “factory
                            produced 
                          </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">science”,
                            then these kind of   papers will  be
                            submitted to other journals. I won’t be
                            surprised if in future some vendors even
                            start their own journals with their own
                            editorial boards !  What will then happen 
                            to the credibility of peer review and
                            scientific quality. </span><span
                            style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
                            color:black"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">I think  it
                            is important that editors of all GIS
                            journals and leadership of all GIS
                            Professional bodies like ICA  declare any
                            conflict of interest with any vendors
                            (funding/sponsorship/gifts  received from
                            any software vendors currently or in the
                            past) to ensure transparency and good
                            practices. </span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">I am just
                            a  ICA volunteer . I am hoping that you will
                            take principled  leadership and action
                            against  “Fake Science” , “Factory produced 
                            science” and any unethical practices in GIS
                            that is affecting Science and Education from
                            any vendors (open or proprietary) . </span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">I thank you
                            for  the work on SDG book and looking
                            forward to hear updates. </span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"> </span></p>
                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:black">Best wishes,</span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
                            font-family:"Helvetica
                            Neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
                        <p style="background:white; min-height:14px"><span
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                        <p style="background:white"><span
                            style="font-size:11.0pt;
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                            Neue",serif; color:black">Suchith</span><span
                            style="font-size:9.0pt;
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                        <p style="background:white"><span
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                            Neue",serif; color:#454545">[1]
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