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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Hi Patrick,</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I agree that this is a difficult issue . Almost everyone involved in editing/reviewing a scientific journal today is aware of this problem, but what steps are we taking to reduce this?</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I am requesting all</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Chief Editors of Scientific journals in GIS to share data for the last three years . Even if for any reason they are not able to disclose details of individual papers , they can atleast share the summary statistics
of</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">dubious submissions they received. Only once we know the true scale of the problem, then we can plan effective steps to rectify this. One journal or organisation alone
cannot do anything meaningful</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">to solve this. It needs the joint working of everyone. There will be lot of pressure from</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">vested interests , but I am requesting all colleagues to not bow to any pressures.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">First, it is important that GIS scientific and professional organisations take strong moral stand against taking sponsorship for scholarly publications from all GIS vendors . Independent peer review system is the fundamental
aspect of science. So I am humbly requesting all Scientific</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">organisations to</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">not use </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">any GIS vendor controlled press for publishing scholarly outputs (edited books etc)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Science is not a commodity to be marketed or sold by any vendor owners! I am very sad and disappointed to see this degrading of science happening. Scientific organisations should not endorse any specific vendor products etc
as “Science” and take strong moral stand against marketing of products as “Science’ by any vendor owners!</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">As Educators and Scientists , I believe we cannot sit silently. Because if we turn a blind eye on this issue, it will affect the</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">GIS discipline’s credibility</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">for the future.</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Independent peer review is the fundamental aspect of science and we need to ensure all steps to protect this.
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Best wishes,</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Suchith</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 18 July 2018 18:28<br>
<b>To:</b> Suchith Anand; discuss@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Journal editors - please share summary statistics</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Suchith,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I for one dearly appreciate the sentiment and intent of your carefully expressed concerns. This issue needs to be identified and described as you are doing so well!
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">We need this discussion to be qualitative, yet examples of the good, the bad and the ugly will certainly help to guide that discussion. And I too feel that we are losing ground by putting an open source veneer around enormous profit-machines’
products. This certainly doesn’t get us any closer to the sustainable world we need.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">If humanity is to have a brighter future, technology must operate with a more collective spirit. Progress in this area will be rather difficult, given the entrenched nature of the profit machine and its gate-keeper mentality.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Thank you for initiating this discussion.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">-Patrick Hogan</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Discuss <discuss-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Suchith Anand<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 17, 2018 11:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> discuss@lists.osgeo.org<br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:black">Dear colleagues,</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:black">It has come to my attention that there is rapid increase in low quality and dubious submissions send to all journals. This is a global problem that needs a coordinated effort to help solve. With
the rapid increase in lot of low quality and dubious submissions to all journals , it is important that all professional and scientific organisations are careful in this . </span><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:black">My humble suggestion and request is that all GIS professional organisations should avoid taking any sponsorship or royalty for scholarly publications (books, journals etc) from any GIS vendors
. If a professional association takes sponsorship for any scholarly publication (edited books etc) from any GIS vendor and agrees to publish it through the vendor’s press then there is potential issues with independent peer review and ensuring scientific
quality. It is only natural that any GIS vendor publication press to have vested interests in promoting their products and agenda. It also makes it easy for the vendor to get endorsement for their products from scientific and professional organisations using
this route.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:black">By taking sponsorship for scholarly publications (edited books etc) from any vendors , it will then become difficult for the Professional Organisations to take strong moral stand against low
quality and dubious submissions for other journals .Especially in times we are seeing increase in fake scientific articles submissions etc, it is important to have clear guidelines for any sponsorship.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:black">I am happy to work on a Open Letter to highlight this issue but will need help from the wider community. If you are a journal editor, it will be very helpful, if you can share the statistics of
how many articles that you have identified in the last three years that are problem and you have rejected .It will be helpful to share examples of these (removing author details etc) , so the wider community is aware of the problem and can take steps to help
reduce the problem in the future.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:black">Best wishes,</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:black">Suchith</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"helvetica neue",serif; color:#454545"></span></p>
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