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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">Hi </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">Christian, </span></p>
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<font face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I will also connect you </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> to Prof. Michael P. Peterson</span></font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">(University of Nebraska at Omaha, USA) so you can get more inputs and ideas . Michael is</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;"> a </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">distinguished
academic . He is currently Chief Editor of one of the</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">
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</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">. He also served as chair of the ICA’s publications committee from 2011-2015 and he helped start many of the journals of ICA.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">Michael</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">emailed me few weeks back alerting me to lot of low quality and dubious submissions that his journal (it is not an ICA journal)</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">is receiving . They all were coming from a particular country and asked for my advice . </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">Though he did not provide me details, I trust his
experience and wisdom .</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;"> I respect his conscience and courage to look into the problem (rather than ignoring it like many) . </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">I think this
is a problem that many Chief editors of journals today are facing. </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">Even if the Chief Editors can’t share individual paper details , my suggestion is that they all need to share summary data and statistics to help us understand the scale of the problem. Only Chief Editors
of journals can do this as only they will have full picture. Individual reviewers may be aware of the problem but they</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">do not have full picture. We also need all the Scientific Associations to take strong stand on this and put in a unified action plan.</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">In my humble opinion, Scientific Associations/Organisations are the guardians of Science. Hence my plea to all of them to please ensure they all take steps to protect the integrity of Science.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt;">They can only do this if they themselves put in strong structures for openness and transparency in decision making at all levels.</span></p>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">I am hoping all Scientific Associations will</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">join forces to find solution to this as it is global problem.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">
</span><font face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">As I clearly told this is not an ICA problem or any vendor problem or one organisation problem. It is a global </span><span style="font-size: 14.666666984558105px;">problem and</span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> everyone
(</span></font><font face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Scientific organisations, academics, vendors, publishers, governments) </span></font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">need to join forces
to help find solution </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">. I am hoping</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">
</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Helvetica Neue"; font-size: 11pt;">all Scientific Organisations will work on an action plan to help on this.</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 25 July 2018 10:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Christian Willmes; geoforall@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Geo4All] Draft of Open Letter on the importance to protecting independent peer review frameworks for Scholarly publications of Scientific Associations</font>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">Thank you Christian for your inputs and offer of help in
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">articulate this issue.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> Greatly appreciated. </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"></span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I think it is an unintentional mistake and I am very grateful that ICA colleagues have listened to my concerns. Though I don’t know any details, I understand from Anthony’s mail last week that ICA is not proceeding
with</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">vendor GIS press for this publication. I hope ICA will have open and transparent discussions based on clear policy frameworks</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">in selecting whichever new book publisher and have clear guidelines in the future.</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">It is the duty of the Scientific Organisations to have clear policies and guidelines on selecting publishers , have open and transparent</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">decision
making , ensure free and open discussions with the community etc. If so, this clear conflict of interest issue would not have happened in the first place. </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">My concern is with the </span><font face="Helvetica Neue" style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:14.666666984558105px">lack
of openness in decision making process</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:14.666666984558105px"> </span><font face="Helvetica Neue" style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:14.666666984558105px">of selecting publishers
for </span></font><font face="Helvetica Neue" style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:14.666666984558105px">book projects etc</span></font><font face="Helvetica Neue" style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:14.666666984558105px">.</span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> I
have waited over an year to get even any small</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">information on this .</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I think it is important to give more time to get more ideas/inputs from the community on how we can rectify this problem for the future. I have put three suggestions . There may be more ideas.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">So you and other colleagues are welcome to bring more ideas/inputs.</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">Feel free to create a shared document with your text/inputs . We can aim to give three months (Oct 2018) to help refine ideas , get inputs from all on what are the best practices for all Scientific associations
to help us draft the Open Letter. We need to learn from this and not keep repeating these mistakes in the future. Hence these open discussions are aimed at learning and sharing ideas for good practices for all Scientific associations /Organisations in the
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<b>Sent:</b> 25 July 2018 07:31<br>
<b>To:</b> Suchith Anand; geoforall@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo Discussions<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geo4All] Draft of Open Letter on the importance to protecting independent peer review frameworks for Scholarly publications of Scientific Associations</font>
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I agree with you on the matter, that publishing a book in context of United Nations initiative by esri is bad. I would also support to offiicialy articulate this somehow.
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But the case you address was solved. As I understand, esri is no longer considered as the publisher for the book?<br>
I also think, that there might be a big conflict of interest, if esri publishes a UN SDG book. But intil that is proven by some wrong doing from esri during the editing and publication process, we are talking not about facts. And as far as I know they didn't
published an UN related book yet? Maybe ICA and Prof. Kraak understood this problem, after you raised your concerns about this issue last year. So, thank you very much for your caring about this issue a year ago, and as it seems you already won the battle!<br>
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What I see now, is at most a policy issue within ICA, that they may need to open up the process for deciding for a publisher of a book project, but I am not even sure about that, because they seem to have already a policy for that case in place?<br>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">Thank you for you mail and inputs. This letter is draft and I welcome inputs from you and everyone to refine it.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I fully agree with you that we just need more transparency in science and also in the whole process of editing/reviewing and publishing a book.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I am happy to make the edits/changes needed that you suggested and I will request your help on this. I have provided all information that I have on this book project that I am aware of. I just do not know the details
(what was the process of selecting the publisher, criteria etc).</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">If you are able to get details on this and share with the community, it will be very helpful. I did my best to get more information on the publisher decision process etc . For</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">some strange</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">reason, there was no openness in the whole process which is the main concern. So if there is no openness and transparency even in this then how do you think we can expect transparency in editing/reviewing
process. I respectfully disagree with you that any GIS vendor if they are also running their</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">publication press, then they have no conflict of interest.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">It is the duty of scientific association to ensure there is transparency in science. Even ICA’s publication policy for conference proceedings</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">does not mention any GIS vendor press . Why? Please see</span></p>
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<a href="https://icaci.org/ica-publications-and-publication-policy-first-publication-volume-is-online/" id="LPlnk275245" class="x_x_OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">https://icaci.org/ica-publications-and-publication-policy-first-publication-volume-is-online/</span></a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">All scholarly publications (edited books, journals, conference proceedings) should follow similar guidelines.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">So I am very confused why and how a GIS vendor press was planned for this community book project.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I highlighted the global problem of increase in low quality submissions</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">and it is not an ICA problem or any Vendor problem or any single organisation problem.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline; color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">Hence it is important that we are all very vigilant and take steps to protect the integrity of independent peer review frameworks</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">for Scholarly publications of Scientific Associations. If any</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">Scientific Associations themselves are not open and transparent in their decision making, then how can they</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">ensure independent peer review frameworks</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">for Scholarly publications!</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I want to make it clear that I am not an author or coauthor on any articles submitted to this book project. So I do not have any personal conflict of interest in this. GeoForAll colleagues contributed for this
book project in good faith. I did work to get GeoForAll colleagues to support and contribute for this book project. So I have a moral responsibility to make sure they are provided as much information and updates on this.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I have no issue if the GIS vendor publication press for this community book was selected by an open, transparent process.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I want us to look at the future not focus on mistakes made in past . Some mistakes have been made and I understand that this is corrected. We are all human , so we all make mistakes So let us not focus on past
mistakes but look at ideas on how we can strengthen the independent peer review frameworks for Scholarly publications of Scientific Associations in the future.</span></p>
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<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I have worked with many properitary</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">GIS vendors and I have great respect for all of them and always welcomed them.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I have raised my concern with some</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">open source vendors also if I find any thing that undermines openness.</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="text-decoration:underline; color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">
</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0); font-size:11pt">I am the view that both open and properitary systems have an important place and need to work together . We are all part of a big ecosystem all working for Geo. I believe in open discussions to help
find better understanding. For me, Openness means being open to different perspectives ,ideas, viewpoints, cultures and learning and improving to be a better human every day...</span></p>
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