<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Cameron,<div><br></div><div>Wonderful to hear about this initiative! As many know, we've tried to develop collective action around the community development of FOSS4G educational material for years -- a hard nut to crack! Perhaps this will develop the critical mass to make it happen! I agree with your "big vision". </div><div><br></div><div>A couple thoughts:</div><div><br></div><div>1) Any discussion of Summer of Docs that would provide paid opportunities for students working with faculty/OSGeo projects?</div><div><br></div><div>That might lead to even more productivity (think - educational content summer internships with OSGeo projects or faculty to develop open access educational materials). <br></div><div><br></div><div>2) One repository -- GeoAcademy, and obviously, QGIS' tutorials</div><div><br></div><div>Materials by Kurt Menke, Rick Smith, John Van Hoesen and Phil Davis: <a href="http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/">http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/</a>. I believe Rick had set up a GitHub project for storing the source. Not sure of update status. Obviously coordination with the QGIS project and <a href="https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/learning_resources.html">their tutorial page</a> would be useful.</div><div><br></div><div>3) To start - organize a "curriculum outline"?</div><div><br></div><div>It would be helpful to collectively develop an overarching curriculum (perhaps building on the GeoAcademy work) or identify content areas? And a focus on not only introduction but more advanced materials, and thought provoking exercises and data, not just tutorials. For example, I'm working on a new class on data analysis of environmental data collected by quadcopters with multispectral sensors. I'd be willing to contribute what I develop to this effort. </div><div><br></div><div>4) Organize for Modularity</div><div><br></div><div>I'd encourage a modular strategy rather than complete course work, and organize by topic area, and don't put rules on content format to encourage submissions and less "rule friction."</div><div><br></div><div>5) There is the issue of where various content would be hosted. But if we can get collective action/organization around material development that issue can be addressed next.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck FOSS4G Oceania folks! I hope you can get this started! If a group forms, add me to the list, please.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Charlie Schweik</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 3:40 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Geoforall community,</p>
<p>FYI: At FOSS4G Oceania this coming week we plan to discuss the
possibility of creating universally maintained QGIS material, with
an eye to eventually building this the cover all OSGeo training
material. <br>
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<p>If there are initiates already in place that we should be aware
of, and should be aligning with, then please let us know so that
we can include them in our discussion. <br>
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<p>(See below for our local discussion so far)<br>
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<div class="m_-2235112232425948479moz-forward-container">Warm regards, Cameron </div>
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<br>
Johan, great to hear of your interest and ability to bring
material to the project. A challenge of funded open source (and
open training) is sustainability after the funding drys up. I'm
hoping we can help address sustainability by spreading maintenance
across multiple community members and funding sources.<br>
<br>
Brad, you are asking some really good questions which I'm hoping
we can collectively discuss. I personally don't have an agenda for
format or delivery mechanisms. I think we should be thinking about
big vision, determine who wants to contribute and what their
priorities are, and then focus on what we can sustainable build to
address immediate needs and material we can already make use of,
and also do our best to attract an active, international community
of maintainers. Feel free to share your suggestions.<br>
<br>
Cheers, Cameron<br>
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On 17/11/18 9:43 am, <a class="m_-2235112232425948479moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bradh@frogmouth.net" target="_blank">bradh@frogmouth.net</a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Cameron,<br>
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Are you anticipating this being a training course or a set of
training material (e.g. some overview presentations and
tutorials) that could be used in a course? What kind of delivery
mechanisms do you anticipate (e.g. face-to-face, self-paced,
etc)? Who do you anticipate the training audience to be? What
would the training outcome(s) / competencies be? Would this
include assessment?<br>
<br>
Brad<br>
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On 17/11/18 7:47 am, Jonah Sullivan wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">I'm looking forward to this session.
Thanks for organising it.<br>
I helped set up a QGIS MOOC with content created by, and created
for, Pacific Islanders.<br>
The project that got it going is winding down; it would be nice
to see it continue.<br>
Here is the link: <a class="m_-2235112232425948479moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pacgeo.org/edu/" target="_blank">http://pacgeo.org/edu/</a><br>
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Cc: Sarah Maddox <a class="m_-2235112232425948479moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sarahmaddox@google.com" target="_blank"><sarahmaddox@google.com></a><br>
Subject: [Aus-NZ-QGIS-group] FOSS4G Birds of Feather session:
Sustaining a training documentation pipeline<br>
<br>
Hi QGIS and FOSS4G folks,<br>
<br>
I think a number of things are serendipitously coming together
to create the perfect opportunity to establish collaborative
building and maintaining OSGeo training material in general, and
QGIS in particular.<br>
(Templates, processes, tool chains developed for QGIS could be
rolled out to other projects in future releases).<br>
<br>
I was talking with Andrew Jeffrey and Chris Milne yesterday
about setting up a Birds of a Feather session at the FOSS4G
conference in Melbourne next week to discuss this. Andrew and
Chris mentined that their employer, Chartis Technology is keen
to collaboratively build QGIS training.<br>
<br>
Sarah Maddox, tech writer from Google, is launching a "Google
Season of Docs" [1], from which we might be able to tap into
experienced tech writer resources.<br>
<br>
I'm hoping that once we get momentum going, we could draw in
universities from Geo4All. Some universities already have good
training material we can start from.<br>
<br>
I'm interested from an OSGeoLive perspective - drawing from our
existing community and extending our established documentation
pipeline to also include training material.<br>
<br>
If you are interested to be involved, then speak up (and/or look
for details of the BoF session once we find a venue and
timeslot).<br>
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[1]<br>
<a class="m_-2235112232425948479moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ABqCc5uAoQv9aqGCxmNqOJ9S_Tst-adNV3fcWQ2Quwc/edit#slide=id.g42b115f18c_0_0" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ABqCc5uAoQv9aqGCxmNqOJ9S_Tst-adNV3fcWQ2Quwc/edit#slide=id.g42b115f18c_0_0</a><br>
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