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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I like the site overall and think it will provide value. I only have 2 comments, one of which is similar to Eli’s.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">The word Install doesn’t seem to fit the purpose of that page. I would not have thought to look under that link for support. I think Support or Getting Started we be better. I also
like Eli’s other suggestions for that page.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Use of other organizations logos. I’m not sure all of these organizations would approve of just using their logo without permission. I think we either need to seek permission (which
might take more work than it’s worth) or remove them and replace with organization names.<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Brian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Brian Fischer<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">GIS Project Manager, Principal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">Houston Engineering, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">O</span></b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black"> 763.493.4522 |
<b>D</b> 763.493.6664 | <b>M</b> 763.229.2734</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> geomoose-psc [mailto:geomoose-psc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eli Adam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 25, 2018 1:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jim Klassen <klassen.js@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [geomoose-psc] Fwd: Starting conversation about linking GeoMOOSE.org to GeoMOOSE.com<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">[External Email]<br>
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On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Jim Klassen <<a href="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com">klassen.js@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 01/25/2018 12:48 PM, Eli Adam wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Despite the long delay to get to the discussion, can we hold off on<br>
>> voting and discuss?<br>
> Yes. Either by us just discussing (my preferred alternative) or you<br>
> could force it by formally voting -1.<br>
<br>
Agreed, I'll get to discussing. Hopefully others will join in.<br>
<br>
<br>
> All,<br>
><br>
> This has been brought up a couple of times in the recent past, and I’m<br>
> moving on it again to get a concensus about putting it into place.<br>
><br>
> There now exists a <a href="http://GeoMOOSE.com">
GeoMOOSE.com</a> website in all it’s glory, which has been<br>
> put together for what I think are obvious reasons, and with the new OSGeo<br>
<br>
This site looks great! Nice work. I like the site a lot, it's got<br>
lots of information too.<br>
<br>
> site coming online in the near future (5days!), now seems like a good time<br>
> to move on setting up a linking system, and I’m proposing that we officially<br>
> link to it from the GeoMOOSE,org site, and in a prominent location. This<br>
<br>
On this simple matter, link to the site, I'm in favor. Before voting,<br>
I'd like to discuss some more. I specifically wanted to hear from<br>
Brian and Brent so called them after no responses on this email<br>
thread. I'll let them speak for themselves if they have anything to<br>
say. The below is me.<br>
<br>
> doesn’t need to be a permanent thing by any means, but the idea of<br>
> supporting, handling outreach and marketing tasks can be handled better in<br>
> an independent way in this companion website.<br>
<br>
I'm interested to see and eager to let that happen.<br>
<br>
><br>
> Please take a look at the .com site and vote yes or no on adding a link to<br>
> the <a href="http://GeoMOOSE.org">GeoMOOSE.org</a> site. My initial thought is to set up a “Support” or<br>
> “Commercial” link in the top banner tool bar that goes to the .com site. We<br>
<br>
I've not had any great ideas of where to put the link myself.<br>
Hopefully someone else will work that out. On the current site the<br>
only place to find this information is home-->FAQ-->Can I get support<br>
for GeoMoose?-->Commercial Support It is more or less impossible.<br>
<br>
> can talk about how to list valid(ated) support organizations as well. My<br>
> first thought is that a list will end up on the .com side, but this is just<br>
> a starting point idea from myself. Let the rest of the PSC know your<br>
<br>
Although the discussion is about adding the link, I can't really<br>
discuss that without discussing the content of the site. So here goes<br>
my list of (mostly very minor but also long) commentary.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://geomoose.com/training/">https://geomoose.com/training/</a> has "Upcoming training" and "Upcoming<br>
workshops." These probably won't be current so I'm not entirely in<br>
favor of them. If there are upcoming things, it seems they should be<br>
on the front page until they happen and are removed.<br>
<br>
Somewhere (I've lost where) links to nabble. This should link to<br>
<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-users">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-users</a><br>
<br>
<a href="https://geomoose.com/features/gis-manager-view/">https://geomoose.com/features/gis-manager-view/</a> lists QGIS under web,<br>
not desktop. I think of QGIS as more desktop than web, although it<br>
does both.<br>
<br>
In the FAQ, "I see this website is hosted by SharedGeo. Who are<br>
they?" "...For more information, please visit the SharedGeo website."<br>
which links to <a href="http://www.sharedgeo.org/">
http://www.sharedgeo.org/</a> I think that linking to a<br>
page more specifically about SharedGeo and GeoMoose not the generic<br>
home page would be more useful. Something about the history. If it<br>
is a simple hosting credit (which is mostly lacking on this page),<br>
then the generic home page is appropriate. Instead of the simple<br>
hosting credit, there is a footer for contact us. So that probably<br>
covers it.<br>
<br>
Also in the FAQ, "I'm a developer, where can I get more information?<br>
Head over to <a href="http://geomoose.org">geomoose.org</a>." This should link to<br>
<a href="https://www.geomoose.org/developer/index.html">https://www.geomoose.org/developer/index.html</a> perhaps change the link<br>
name to "GeoMoose" or "GeoMoose developer documentation" or something.<br>
<br>
More FAQ, "Where can I get help and support for GeoMOOSE? Please see<br>
the Install page for that information." This seems to not answer the<br>
question. "Install" is not "Support." To find the support requires<br>
scrolling down the page. In fact, the whole support bit might need to<br>
be more prominent. As a casual user of the website, it is unlikely<br>
that I would find it. The straight forward answer to, "Where can I<br>
get help and support for GeoMOOSE?" is "Beyond the traditional open<br>
source methods of email lists and documentation, there are four<br>
consultants providing commercial support for GeoMoose.<br>
[Links1,2,3,4.]"<br>
<br>
> thoughts. This site was created is being managed by SharedGeo currently,<br>
> and was put together to facilitate better outreach and marketing.<br>
<br>
It is also, "Copyright © 2017 SharedGeo. All Rights Reserved." This<br>
raises the question of who edits? So to discuss content, edits, or<br>
management, what is the process?<br>
<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> bobb<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when<br>
> there is nothing left to take away.<br>
> —Antoine de Saint-Exupéry<br>
<br>
Since you quote this, I will mention that the site has lots and lots<br>
of information. I would rate finding commercial support on this page<br>
as "not easy" or at least "not obvious." It is easy and obvious to<br>
find:<br>
<br>
Contact Us<br>
<br>
Email<br>
<a href="mailto:info@sharedgeo.org">info@sharedgeo.org</a><br>
Phone<br>
1-888-877-SGEO (7436)<br>
Address<br>
SharedGeo<br>
1360 University Ave. West, Suite 455<br>
St. Paul, MN 55104-4086<br>
<br>
on each page but I might not contact if I don't know why or that<br>
commercial support is an option. If you want to track the<br>
effectiveness of the website, you could also use another email address<br>
<a href="mailto:geomoose@sharedgeo.org">geomoose@sharedgeo.org</a> (or something)<br>
<br>
Since I've raise a lot of (minor) issues, I'll come back to my initial<br>
comments and impressions: "This site looks great! Nice work. I like<br>
the site a lot, it's got lots of information too. On this simple<br>
matter, link to the site, I'm in favor."<br>
<br>
Best regards, Eli<br>
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