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On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 3:54 PM, Jim Klassen <klassen.js@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
> I've been busy cleaning up geomoose.org as can be seen here [1]. The<br>
> changes so far have generally been consistency, formatting, and some<br>
> minor re-wording.<br>
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> However, I have also come across some changes I would like to make,<br>
> but feel they are more significant and should be run past the list<br>
> first.<br>
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Lots of changes are fine without running by the list too.</div>
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<span style="font-family: "Comic Sans MS", Chalkboard, cursive;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Agreed</span></span></div>
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> * The Gallery:<br>
> <a href="https://www.geomoose.org/info/gallery.html" id="LPlnk438439" previewremoved="true" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;">
https://www.geomoose.org/info/gallery.html</a> <br>
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> Appears to only be referenced from a link at the end of the front page.<br>
><br>
> Has bad links and links to sites that are no longer GeoMoose based.<br>
> We have had issues keeping this page up to date in the past. I<br>
> wonder if we wouldn't be better off just getting rid of it.<br>
><br>
> Any objections?<br>
<br>
If we dish this off to GeoMoose.com, I'm fine with removing it. If<br>
not, then I'll work on maintaining it some.</div>
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<div class="PlainText" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">I had the same thought about moving it to the .com side.</span><br>
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> * FAQ Page:<br>
> <a href="https://www.geomoose.org/faq.html" id="LPlnk299207" previewremoved="true" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;">
https://www.geomoose.org/faq.html</a> <br>
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><br>
> The "Why GeoMoose?" question has some nice prose in it but it is<br>
> also significantly out of date (it references 2.6). I feel that it<br>
> also duplicates the function of the paragraph under "Welcome to<br>
> GeoMoose" on the front page.<br>
><br>
> I feel it should go. Objections?<br>
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I'd rather see it moved/merged to the front page. The 2.6 reference<br>
is not exactly out of date (still entirely true and we've come farther<br>
too: "As of the 2.6 version, GeoMoose includes new powerful vector<br>
capabilities."). The specific aspects of the FAQ text I like are<br>
"...a useful web-based GIS environment for those who need something<br>
that works from the first download... a fully operating web-based<br>
parcel application... without the need to write a single line of<br>
code." I don't care for the this part of the text on the front page<br>
"very light weight for servers making it easy to handle a large number<br>
of users, with a large number of layers, and a large number of<br>
services without stressing a server." No one has cared about that for<br>
10+ years. There may be merit to it and maybe people should care but<br>
they don't.</div>
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<div class="PlainText" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">No argument on any of this, but they should care, especially when setting </span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">up side by side with
</span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">those commercial offereings</span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> on the same hardware. The number of layers is a big issue once the count goes up. Just a comment here though. Probably not something the first
timer will be worried about either.</span><br>
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> * Support Page:<br>
><br>
> The FAQ questions "Can I get support" and "How do I get a bug fixed"<br>
> feel to me like they should be the basis for a top level support<br>
> page. These seem like important topics and I don't think people<br>
> think to look for them on the FAQ page.<br>
><br>
> I propose we separate them out to their own support page and replace<br>
> the FAQ link in the header with a link to this new support page.<br>
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Yes, this would be good.</div>
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<div class="PlainText" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Agreed</span>.<br>
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> The link to the FAQ would remain as a green button on the front<br>
> page.<br>
><br>
> * Commercial Support:<br>
> <a href="https://www.geomoose.org/info/commercial_support.html" id="LPlnk198830" previewremoved="true" style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;">
https://www.geomoose.org/info/commercial_support.html</a><br>
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> Currently linked only from the FAQ page (or under my proposal would<br>
> be linked under the new Support page).<br>
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Yes, needs to go somewhere more useful as I've commented in another thread.<br>
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><br>
> If we go ahead with GeoMoose.com, GeoMoose.com might take the place<br>
> of the Commercial Support page on GeoMoose.org.<br>
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While it may be on GeoMoose.com too, I'd like to keep a copy on .org as well.</div>
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<div class="PlainText" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Might be able to figure out how to use a common list if needed to.</span><br>
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> If we don't, we need to at a minimum give this page a once over.<br>
> The links back to OSGeo are broken and the companies list should<br>
> probably be refreshed.<br>
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Yes, should be refreshed. I think that I'm supposed to annually<br>
review and refresh it but have not done so.<br>
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><br>
> * Demos<br>
><br>
> Back at the end of last year, I created a pull request for<br>
> geomoose.org to add a jump page for the various demos instead of<br>
> having only the current development branch available as the demo<br>
> link. We still host the 2.9 demo and 3.x has the desktop demo and a<br>
> more beta quality mobile demo. The objection to the PR at the time<br>
> was that the mobile demo wasn't polished enough yet. I would<br>
> suggest, that since that is still true, we mark the mobile demo as a<br>
> beta for now.<br>
><br>
> My thoughts are we should expose these other options to site<br>
> visitors.<br>
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Yes, definitely. See PR which leaves the mobile as unlisted. We can<br>
deal with that later but we definitely want to expose the other links.<br>
This is sort of half-fixing since it still leaves off the mobile<br>
version but lets us otherwise continue on. Sorry about delay on this.</div>
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<div class="PlainText" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Jim's idea of labelling the Mobile Demo as BETA is
</span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">a good</span><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> way forward for listing.</span><br>
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> If we are intent on keeping the Gallery, I'd consider moving it to a<br>
> section of this jump page under our hosted demos. (But only if we<br>
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I'm a little bit apprehensive about this since errors in third party<br>
sites could get reported to the project, or other features that have<br>
been added to those sites are reported as missing from the demo.<br>
<br>
> knew the sites we link to are willing to be listed and will be well<br>
> maintained examples of GeoMoose in the wild.)<br>
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This would make me less apprehensive about it.</div>
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<div class="PlainText" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Not sure how to handle validaing these ideas, but all for it.</span></div>
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Best regards, Eli<br>
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> * Missing items:<br>
><br>
> A features list???<br>
><br>
> A GeoMoose 3.x contributors guide. (The existing guide is very 2.x<br>
> centric). This could also live on <a href="https://geomoose.github.io/gm3/" id="LPlnk632549" previewremoved="true" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;">
https://geomoose.github.io/gm3/</a>. <br>
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> There is a GM 3 style guide, but we should have something talking<br>
> about submitting Ask on the List, submit a Pull Request, public<br>
> email declaring contributions are under GeoMoose (MIT) license and<br>
> they are authorized to declare that, etc.<br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="https://github.com/geomoose/geomoose-website/compare/4541168...615234f" id="LPlnk955438" previewremoved="true" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;">
https://github.com/geomoose/geomoose-website/compare/4541168...615234f</a> <br>
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