<div dir="auto"><div>I like where this is going.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, May 22, 2021, 12:44 Brent Fraser <<a href="mailto:bfraser@geoanalytic.com">bfraser@geoanalytic.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:14px"><div style="box-sizing:border-box">good point. I'll think about the uses of the Examples:</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">1. new users use them to explore GeoMoose and guide them in their implementation (along with the doc)</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">2. we use them for testing </div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">3. at least one is used for our online Demo</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><hr id="m_307792497668742764previousmessagehr" style="box-sizing:border-box;clear:both"><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box"><strong style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">From</strong>: Eli Adam <<a href="mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">eadam@co.lincoln.or.us</a>><br style="box-sizing:border-box"><strong style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">Sent</strong>: 5/22/21 11:34 AM<br style="box-sizing:border-box"><strong style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">To</strong>: Brent Fraser <<a href="mailto:bfraser@geoanalytic.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bfraser@geoanalytic.com</a>><br style="box-sizing:border-box"><strong style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">Cc</strong>: Dan Little <<a href="mailto:theduckylittle@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">theduckylittle@gmail.com</a>>, GeoMOOSE PSC <<a href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br style="box-sizing:border-box"><strong style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">Subject</strong>: Re: [geomoose-psc] Examples / Demos / Mulitple Mapbooks</span></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div dir="ltr" style="box-sizing:border-box"><div dir="ltr" style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><br style="box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><div dir="ltr" style="box-sizing:border-box">On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:38 AM Brent Fraser <<a href="mailto:bfraser@geoanalytic.com" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(0,102,147);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">bfraser@geoanalytic.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(94,53,177)"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:14px;box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Hi All,</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> I agree with Dan's proposal below. Here's a structure to consider (in preparation for an RFC) to minimize the duplication of css etc:</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> Examples/desktop</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> mapbook.xml</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> mapbook-editing-geoserver.xml (superset of mapbook.xml)</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> mapbook-editing-tinyowx.xml (superset of mapbook.xml)</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> mapbook-testing.xml (kitchen-sink of all possible map source types, might need its own app.js)</div></div></blockquote><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Would mapbook-testing.xml have editing? I would like to see editing in some testing/demo capacity beyond isolation. See my previous comments in this thread, <a href="https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/issues/631" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(0,102,147);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/issues/631</a> </div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(94,53,177)"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:14px;box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> Examples/mobile</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> mapbook.xml</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">And I think we should tweak mapbook.xml and app.js to help new users adapt them in their journey in implementing GeoMoose.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Thanks!</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Brent</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><hr id="m_307792497668742764gmail-m_-740131844236726546previousmessagehr" style="box-sizing:border-box;clear:both;break-after:page"><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><span style="box-sizing:border-box"><b style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">From</b>: Dan Little <<a href="mailto:theduckylittle@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(0,102,147);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">theduckylittle@gmail.com</a>><br style="box-sizing:border-box"><b style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">Sent</b>: 5/22/21 9:36 AM<br style="box-sizing:border-box"><b style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">To</b>: GeoMOOSE PSC <<a href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(0,102,147);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br style="box-sizing:border-box"><b style="box-sizing:border-box;font-weight:700">Subject</b>: [geomoose-psc] Examples / Demos / Mulitple Mapbooks</span></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div dir="ltr" style="box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box">I think we have hit a critical mass of needing *four* Desktop demos:</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">1. Editing - The two mapbooks below should be identical but for their target server. I am in favor of having these be a more limited workflow that shows how editing works in a practical way.</div></div></div></blockquote><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Benefits and drawbacks with this approach, as noted in that issue thread. </div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(94,53,177)"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:14px;box-sizing:border-box"><div dir="ltr" style="box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> A. Based on GeoServer.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> B. Based on PostGIS.</div></div></div></blockquote><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">I assume that "PostGIS"=TinyOWS? Would GeoServer be backed by PostGIS or spatialite, shapefile, or some other file based data source?</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(94,53,177)"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:14px;box-sizing:border-box"><div dir="ltr" style="box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box">2. "The Desktop Demo" a la the status quo. The demo that people will "Copy Pasta" and turn into their deployed Website. Drop all the scary warning messages, ensure our comments are up to date, and that we remove the "Test code". We attempt to show a reasonable set of data types that people would find around in a "typical" County/City/Division website.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">3. "The testing mapbook":</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> - This can have the same layers configured in different ways (WFS, WMS)</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> - "Test grids" - So we can test scaling and printing issues.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> - Can include stuff that is intentionally broken to test error handling.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> - I feel we can add stuff with a <exp:> prefix to denote some experimental stuff we could point users to but not feel the need to adopt and support long term.</div></div></div></blockquote><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Hopefully this would include editing and not so much experimental and intentionally broken things as to prevent useful testing. </div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(94,53,177)"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:14px;box-sizing:border-box"><div dir="ltr" style="box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Does this seem like a lot? Sure. Maybe? Why I don't think it is:</div></div></div></blockquote><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">GeoMoose does a lot so this does not seem like a lot to me. I agree, it is not a lot. It is a little (for the footprint of functions that GeoMoose covers). </div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(94,53,177)"><div style="font-family:arial;font-size:14px;box-sizing:border-box"><div dir="ltr" style="box-sizing:border-box"><div style="box-sizing:border-box">1. The editing workflow is pretty dedicated and I feel Brent has put some real time into making sure it is well tested. I feel like that will continue and we have historically had good stakeholders for that functionality.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">2. The "Desktop demo" will be a subset of the functionality that starts in the testing mapbook.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">3. I find it harder to comment, uncomment, and generally futz around with the "Desktop demo" all the time to make sure it looks okay AND that we have all of the needed functionality ready to test. While, yes, additional unit-testing will help it is very hard to beat a real-world end-to-end test.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">I may take an initial swipe at this when I do the multiple mapbooks support but drafting an official RFC may be prudent here.</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Thanks for reading!</div></div></div></blockquote><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Sounds mostly great!</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box">Cheers, Eli</div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"><br style="box-sizing:border-box"></div><div style="box-sizing:border-box"> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(94,53,177)">_______________________________________________<br style="box-sizing:border-box">geomoose-psc mailing list<br style="box-sizing:border-box"><a href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(0,102,147);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a><br style="box-sizing:border-box"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-psc" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" style="box-sizing:border-box;color:rgb(0,102,147);text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-psc</a></blockquote></div></div></div>
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